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Herger (R-CA) Calls Obama Plan "Threat to Democracy"
Mt. Shasta Herald ^ | 8/21/2009 | By Paul Boerger

Posted on 08/22/2009 11:07:29 PM PDT by GVnana

By Paul Boerger
Republican Congressman Wally Herger of northern California denounced president Obama’s health care plan at an Aug. 18, 2009 town hall meeting in Redding, Calif.

Republican Congressman Wally Herger held a health care town hall meeting Aug. 18 at Simpson University in Redding, where a partisan crowd of over 2,000 people loudly cheered Herger’s position that a public option was “unacceptable.”

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“Our democracy has never been threatened as much as it is today,” Herger said to a loud standing ovation.

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After denouncing the Obama plan to wild cheering, Herger offered a few solutions of his own including opening up competition among private health care companies by forcing companies to sell policies nationwide rather than just within individual states, tort reform to bring down malpractice costs and “risk pools like automobile companies” for those with preexisting conditions who Herger conceded are unable to get coverage. He also suggested “bargaining groups and associations” could help bring down costs.

“Health care costs have soared,” Herger said. “But I will oppose a public option with everything I have.” Speakers included several opposed to Obama holding up copies of the Constitution and asking Herger to show where it says Congress has the right to be involved in health care.

Herger said the federal government does have a limited role to play in health care noting, “We do lots of things that are not in the Constitution.” “There are things we can do with health care, as long as the government is not running it,” Herger said.

(Excerpt) Read more at mtshastanews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; congress; democracy; government; healthcare; herger; obama; obamacare; politics; townhall; townhalls; usconstitution; wallyherger
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My former congressman (before reapportionment) and a very good man.
1 posted on 08/22/2009 11:07:29 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

“We do lots of things that are not in the Constitution.”

He could very well be a ‘good’ man but I find it extremely disturbing that he, a Republican no less, would make that statement and be comfortable with it. Yes, they have done a lot of things that are not in the Constitution and that’s the problem!!!


2 posted on 08/22/2009 11:16:31 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: GVnana

Where did you get reapportioned???


3 posted on 08/22/2009 11:28:23 PM PDT by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: norge

I was at the very lower-end of Herger’s district, now represented by Tom McClintock.


4 posted on 08/22/2009 11:33:49 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: GVnana

I thought so. Welcome. Newcastle here.


5 posted on 08/22/2009 11:37:07 PM PDT by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: GVnana

Always liked Wally...good guy.


6 posted on 08/22/2009 11:38:47 PM PDT by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: norge

Howdy neighbor! Yup. Herger is one of the good ones.


7 posted on 08/22/2009 11:48:16 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: GVnana
"“Our democracy has never been threatened as much as it is today,” Herger said to a loud standing ovation. "

Our constitutional Republic too...

8 posted on 08/23/2009 12:18:48 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: GVnana
It took him until the friggin' 18th of August to say this?

Sorry, but this is bullshit.

If this guy is one of the good guys, he should have been screaming this message from the mountain tops.

Welcome to the party, pal.

9 posted on 08/23/2009 12:19:21 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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“We do lots of things that are not in the Constitution. I knew I wouldn't be the only one who saw that.

You are an outlaw woman and I an a mad sailor!

Maybe we can still save the country!

10 posted on 08/23/2009 1:01:31 AM PDT by Nitro
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To: GVnana; All

The comments section after the article are being hit hard by the DUmmies and KosKids... They need some wee-wee!


11 posted on 08/23/2009 1:11:53 AM PDT by nralife (Sarah doesn't know it's a damn show! She thinks it's a damn fight!)
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To: Outlaw Woman
“Health care costs have soared,” Herger said. “But I will oppose a public option with everything I have.”

Speakers included several opposed to Obama holding up copies of the Constitution and asking Herger to show where it says Congress has the right to be involved in health care. Herger said the federal government does have a limited role to play in health care noting, “We do lots of things that are not in the Constitution.”

“There are things we can do with health care, as long as the government is not running it,” Herger said.

“We do lots of things that are not in the Constitution.”

He could very well be a ‘good’ man but I find it extremely disturbing that he, a Republican no less, would make that statement and be comfortable with it. Yes, they have done a lot of things that are not in the Constitution and that’s the problem!!!

You are or course correct to say that extra-constitutional governmental action is a serious problem.

In context, tho, it's not at all clear that the official in question is "comfortable" with it.


12 posted on 08/23/2009 2:11:51 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: GVnana

McClintock’s sharp, and one to watch:

House Chamber, Washington, D.C. July 28, 2009.
“Mr. Speaker: In order to support the Democrats’ healthcare plan, we are asked to accept three arguments that are fundamentally absurd: First, that the same government that pioneered $400 hammers and $600 toilet seats is somehow going to control healthcare costs; Second, that the same government that runs FEMA is going to make our health care system more efficient and responsive; Third, that the same government that runs the IRS is going to make our healthcare more compassionate and understanding.”
http://mcclintock.house.gov/


13 posted on 08/23/2009 2:29:50 AM PDT by blueplum
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If he wasn’t comfortable with it, it wouldn’t of ‘fell’ out of his mouth so easily


14 posted on 08/23/2009 6:16:40 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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If he wasn’t comfortable with it, it wouldn’t of ‘fell’ out of his mouth so easily
On second reading, in daylight, you seem to be correct.

In a better world, political issues would be between people like that and real conservatives. But as it is the world is not so full of conservative congressmen that we have time to work at replacing that one, I would think.


15 posted on 08/23/2009 6:21:52 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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“But as it is the world is not so full of conservative congressmen that we have time to work at replacing that one, I would think.”

You are probably right. But hasn’t that very thought brought us to this point? Willing to accept, tolerate and pray it all works out in the end? But now, as you indicated, we are out of time. What now?


16 posted on 08/23/2009 6:36:29 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Pardon me for saying so, but you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I've had a lot of experience with Herger in his capacity as a congressman, and I can tell you they don't come any better -- and that includes my current congressman, McClintock.

Instead of dwelling on one line, uttered within the context of a public meeting attended by TWO SIDES of his constituency, perhaps you might consider that our republic would be better off if more men like Herger were in public office, where they can do some good.

17 posted on 08/23/2009 9:59:33 AM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: GVnana

Please, don’t preach or get self righteous with me. Out of the mouth comes the thought and intent of the man/woman.

I’m simply pointing out that everyone has become so accustomed to the constitution being trampled on, that he felt absolutely comfortable in stating that and it was almost as an afterthought. And that IS the problem. I don’t care who it is, what label they carry....when they are comfortable in a viewpoint like that, then they tend to start accepting more and more abuses.

The line has to be drawn. For me, the constitution is the line.


18 posted on 08/23/2009 10:11:02 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Draw a line?

You know nothing but one line in a newspaper article.

You're a fool to make such rash judgments.

19 posted on 08/23/2009 10:23:11 AM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: GVnana

The next step..........personal attacks. Gotta love it.....is this Ann Archy?


20 posted on 08/23/2009 10:25:04 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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