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NH customers asked to cover tab for clunkers
Union Leader ^ | Aug. 21, 2009 | TRENT SPINER AND MARK HAYWARD

Posted on 08/22/2009 12:30:26 PM PDT by george76

Frustrated with delays, rejections and computer-system crashes, several New Hampshire auto dealers are making car buyers pledge to cover rebates if the federal government doesn't come through with checks under the Cash for Clunkers program.

Auto dealers say they are doing so because the federal government is a clunker when it comes to sending out rebate checks of $3,500 or $4,500 per car.

The New Hampshire Auto Dealers Association created the draft agreement earlier this month and sent it to members, said President Peter McNamara.

Some dealers aren't using the agreement. Others are negotiating the agreement into the deal. McNamara said dealers are having problems getting rebates from the federal government, despite a law that requires any rebate application to be answered within 10 days.

At Bonneville & Son in Manchester, the company has not received a single rebate, despite the 70 Cash for Clunker deals it signed since late July. Manchester Subaru has had one of 25 rebates approved.

For some dealers, the IOUs surpass $500,000, McNamara said. "For any dealer, $100,000 represents a serious cash-flow issue if you don't know when it's going to come in,"

(Excerpt) Read more at unionleader.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhodot; cash; cashforclunker; cashforclunkers; clunkers; dealerships; lping
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To: freekitty
The customer gets slammed from every direction.

The customer?? You mean the one with the new car and their mouth to the teet? (BTW, I'm not a car dealer... I just don't like gub'ment handouts.)

81 posted on 08/23/2009 6:02:13 AM PDT by A Mississippian (Proud 7th generaion Mississippian)
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To: A Mississippian

I think you missed the point.


82 posted on 08/23/2009 6:27:55 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: george76

The language of the bill said that the government MUST pay the dealers within 10 days-——

More Hope and Changey-—
Now NObama changes the definition of 10 days!!


83 posted on 08/23/2009 10:41:51 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: dearolddad

No, they won’t make it up on volume. First, they don’t have those trade-ins, so they have less inventory. Second, small businesses, which is what auto dealerships are, are having almost no luck getting credit. That creates a major cash flow problem. Buyers can’t get credit, either, especially on large, depreciating products. So where is all this volume coming from?


84 posted on 08/23/2009 2:30:07 PM PDT by bustinchops
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To: bustinchops

True, both the dealer and the customer get the shaft if the government defaults, or at least one of them does. My point was simply that the dealer would never have made the sale in the first place had the rebate program not been in place, yet I’m sure they would have no interest in undoing the whole deal if the goobermint reneges. I realize that to an extent they can’t because the vehicle would now be used, but what about the customer who made a decision they wouldn’t otherwise have made on the strength of the rebate promise, then they’re expected to stand by the purchase even though the deal has been changed on them after the fact? Point is, if the government defaults, BOTH the dealer and the buyer have been put in impossible positions.


85 posted on 08/23/2009 3:06:40 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: bustinchops
Did the dealers have the ability to opt out of the program?

Maybe, at least the ones that weren't nationalized.........for now.

86 posted on 08/23/2009 7:16:24 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: dearolddad
Last time I checked, it covered 94,000 lineal ft. of shelf space and comprised approximately 8 billion pages.

Nobody can know what it says.

87 posted on 08/23/2009 7:25:13 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: george76

This on top of the cars they really couldn’t afford. Six months from now the lots will be stocked with the cash for clunkers repos!


88 posted on 08/23/2009 7:48:43 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Still Thinking

The dealers aren’t trying to change the deal after the fact. They are simply asking the customer BEFORE the sale is completed to assume the risk for the government’s default on the $4500 rebate.

If the dealer makes no profit due to the government reneging or just never getting around to meeting their promise, the dealer does not benefit from the sale at all. However, ostammer’s UAW buddies benefit whether the government follows through on the rebate or not because the manufacturer got their money for the vehicle, which then means more cars get built which means more money for UAW workers.


89 posted on 08/23/2009 9:13:35 PM PDT by bustinchops
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To: bustinchops

If they’re asking up front then fine. The customer can decide how trustworthy they think the feds are.


90 posted on 08/24/2009 1:54:56 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Still Thinking

Anyhoo, it’s over now, so we’ll see the fall out over the coming months moving toward the new model year and the into the holidays. I hope the dealers have a brisk business and can take in some trades that lower middle-class Americans can take advantage of.

I wish the all well and I hope the dealers get their money and the car buyers didn’t over-commit in the deals they signed onto. If it threw some business toward the suppliers, that’s also good.

I’m withholding judgment. I’m against government subsidies of any kind and don’t like the idea of subsidizing the program and I have no faith in the government to follow through according to their promise, policies and plans except for the military, but on the other hand it’s good to see hard working Americans catch a break for once and the dealers as well. They’ve been hit hard by the economic plunge into darkness.


91 posted on 08/25/2009 3:26:21 AM PDT by bustinchops
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To: freekitty

“The customer gets slammed from every direction.”

No one is forcing customers to buy new cars in the cash for clunkers program. If they choose to and then get ripped off I don’t feel sorry for them. They were trying to get something for nothing. The government is a criminal organization. If you choose to do business with a criminal organization and get cheated, whose fault is that?


92 posted on 08/25/2009 9:08:49 AM PDT by monday
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To: monday

What I am referring to is the criminal element.


93 posted on 08/25/2009 9:36:24 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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