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Obama Care Sparks Second Wave of Ammo Shortages: Patients Told to Bite the Bullet
Canada Free Press ^ | 8/21/09 | Joy Tiz

Posted on 08/22/2009 8:58:31 AM PDT by jazminerose

“Every medical student learns an old adage: You can skimp on some medicine, but you can’t skimp on obstetrics or anesthesiology. An elderly surgeon explained it to me this way, ‘In surgery, people die in days and weeks—a doctor has time to fix a mistake. But in obstetrics and anesthesiology, they die in minutes and seconds.’” – Dr. Ronald Dworkin

Among the myriad of deplorable misanthropic schemes under Obama Care, which should properly be called Obama-Soros care, one of the most afflictive is the administration’s dedication to cost cutting by way of reducing such frivolous frills as anesthesia.

“Incredibly, Congress’s proposed healthcare reform plan risks skimping on anesthesia. According to one of the health-care bills in Congress, H.R. 3200, the public option would reduce reimbursement for anesthesia by over 50%.”

Liberals, who fancy themselves the sole arbiters of compassion, have no compunction about cutting corners on superfluous amenities like an anesthetic during surgery, according to anesthesiologist Ronald Dworkin writing for the Wall Street Journal.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anesthesia; obamacare; rationing; soros

1 posted on 08/22/2009 8:58:32 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: jazminerose

Of course not knowing Obama’s medical record, we don’t
know if he’s ever been operated on or not, so we can’t
know if it’s something he can relate to. However, as a patient who has had quite a few operations, this article is
right on.....and frightening.


2 posted on 08/22/2009 9:04:06 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: jazminerose

I just had a root canal and need another. Is novocaine on the list of “non-necessities”? If it is, I’ll hurry. Maybe I’ll get all my teeth root canaled just in case! ~sarc


3 posted on 08/22/2009 9:06:30 AM PDT by albie
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To: albie

That might be wise. Or just have them all removed to avoid future problems. Remember that poor guy in the UK with the bad tooth & pliers?


4 posted on 08/22/2009 9:12:11 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: albie

I am wishing root canals (without anesthetic) on every single one of the 62+ million morons who voted for the 0bamaFraud.

It’s the least I can do.


5 posted on 08/22/2009 9:15:10 AM PDT by mkjessup (I don't know where 0bama's REAL birth certificate is but let me find it & I'll wipe my ASS with it!!)
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To: jazminerose

Everybody knows that greedy doctors just give anesthesia so they can get more money. It’s high time we go back to more holistic, natural methods still practiced in other cultures (that are just as advanced and wise as the US and more so) like a fifth of scotch and biting an apple.


6 posted on 08/22/2009 9:16:16 AM PDT by SeminoleSoldier
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To: jazminerose

Our current medical system is about 60% private, 40% goverment, by dollars spent.

Many folks fail to realize that the secret of this entire plan is to force ALL medical reimbursement down by 65%, to Medicare levels. Then, once the private insurance system is destroyed and absorbed, to force reimbursement down even further.

However, the author is correct. This will force two medical systems to be built, along with a new insurance and financing system to support them. The rich will get their care elsewhere. All existing hospitals and doctors will then chose to “go public” or, more likely, they will exit the government system and accept the new private insurance only.

In the U.S., this will evolve VERY quickly. Already, there are plenty of insurers and overseas facilities ready to go. In the U.S., lots of providers would like nothing better than to drop public care now. All they need is a little push from “O”. Most won’t retire, they will go totally private, and make LOTS more money.


7 posted on 08/22/2009 9:20:45 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("How's that 'hopey, changy' thing work'in out fer ya?")
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To: jazminerose

When I was in the army back around 1960 you had to be kind of careful going to the army dentists, who liked to practice on their patients and seemed to consider them as guinea pigs. At least that was true of several I visited.

One of the guys with me in basic training had bad teeth. He came from a poor family in Appalachia. I remember he went to the dentist, and when he came back, he had had all 32 teeth removed. Well, maybe some of them needed removing, but I doubt if all of them did. Only it was simpler that way. Get it all over with at once, and get a set of false teeth instead.

That same dentist wanted to remove one of my teeth, but I told him to fill it instead. I’ve still got it, 50 years later, although the filling needed to be redone later.


8 posted on 08/22/2009 9:22:16 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: jazminerose

Would anyone use an OBAMA-GYN doctor?


9 posted on 08/22/2009 9:39:24 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: jazminerose

And all you naysayers claim Hussein hasn’t improved the economy.


10 posted on 08/22/2009 9:54:39 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Wiseghy
. The rich will get their care elsewhere. All existing hospitals and doctors will then chose to “go public” or, more likely, they will exit the government system and accept the new private insurance only.

They will not be allowed to do that. It'll be the "public option" or nothing. The very rich will be able to go offshore, but that doesn't help much when you have a heart attack, a stroke, or just break a large bone.

My cousin's husband recently had a heart attack, while hiking in the grand canyon. He spent the night in the Canyon, being treated for heat exhaustion, although I suspect they may have hedged their bets and given him aspirin. They hauled him up the next morning to a ranger station, where they had an EKG machine...that showed Heart Attack. They put him on a helicopter to Flagstaff. The hospital there sent him on to Phoenix where he had a quadruple bypass. Now here's the kicker. He has been unemployed for at least a year, maybe as much as two. He's had to buy his own health insurance, because he's not quite old enough for medicare. Somehow, he managed. I don't know how, but he did.

11 posted on 08/22/2009 9:56:36 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Tanniker Smith

OMG what a horrible thought.


12 posted on 08/22/2009 10:05:13 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: El Gato
They will not be allowed to do that. It'll be the "public option" or nothing. The very rich will be able to go offshore, but that doesn't help much when you have a heart attack, a stroke, or just break a large bone.

You are spot on. Save your money. Those of us that can afford it will be flying to India for hip replacements, heart surgery, etc. The alternative will be a waiting list until death. Right now, outside the US, India seems to be the country of choice with the most affordable quality surgeries.

But if we go socialist here, I think US doctors fleeing here and starting practices elsewhere will find some other countries/island countries popping up as havens for surgeries-for-cash for Americans. That is ... unless the goobermint disallows doctors leaving the country, which is certainly a possibility.

13 posted on 08/22/2009 10:07:29 AM PDT by webschooner (First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win -- Mahatma Gandhi)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Back to the metal speculums that can be reused over and over and over again instead of those wasteful & environmentally unfriendly plastic ones.

FWIW, I am self employed & have health insurance for $183/mo thru Blue Cross of CA with a $2500 deductible.

Is it heartless to ask whether any of those supposed poor people who can’t afford insurance are able to scrounge up enough for cigarettes & booze every month?

The truly needy are already eligible for Medicaid, maybe we need to fix that system first.


14 posted on 08/22/2009 10:08:26 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: jazminerose

For anyone that thinks a national health service wouldn’t skimp on painkillers, the British NHS is proposing severe restrictions on epidurals during childbirth:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5822051.ece

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23413839-details/Forget+the+epidural,+NHS+pushes+for+water+births/article.do

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1511243/Charge-women-for-needless-NHS-epidurals-say-midwives.html


15 posted on 08/22/2009 11:26:53 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

You know what would make me the most furious? To have some lazy slob of a government bureaucrat telling people they can’t have a necessary procedure or medication because it costs too much while the worthless sloth sits at his or her desk sucking up my money.

That would drive me to something extreme. Maybe eating chocolate or something.


16 posted on 08/22/2009 11:45:49 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: El Gato

Yeah, I’ve been to the GC recently and seen what the hike can do to people. Dehydration is very sneaky. It took me a long time to learn to avoid it.

In most states, for individual coverage, your friend would have to omit his medical history completely to get coverage.

Insurers actually have pretty good proposals to fix this, and are finally united in offering solutions. What is missing is leadership to make it happen. Congress has totally and deliberately ignored the problem.

On the Dem side, they are using the individual market as a hammer to show “insurer greed”. Most insurers, however, lose money (by the $100’s of millions) in medical and have left the market. The few remaining LOSE A LOT every 3 to 5 years.

Insurers simply need regulations to make the rules the same for all players, so risk can be spread out. If done well, it can actually can lower prices dramatically, as competition kicks in between companies.

I have seen it happen, repeatedly; AB 1672 (in 1992) and Work Comp reform in CA (2005?) both lowered rates by about 60% from where they would have been (or more) and brought more stability, even after the price wars eased.


17 posted on 08/22/2009 11:49:36 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("How's that 'hopey, changy' thing work'in out fer ya?")
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To: jazminerose
"Obama Care Sparks Second Wave of Ammo Shortages: Patients Told to Bite the Bullet "

Love the not-so-subtle humor......

18 posted on 08/22/2009 3:06:42 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: jazminerose

http://www.collinsreport.net/2009/08/10/do-you-want-to-do-something-to-directly-fight-obamacare/


19 posted on 08/23/2009 7:22:34 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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