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Romney defends Mass. plan [wants "bipartisan leadership" from Obama]
Politico / CBS / Wire Reports ^ | 2009-08-20

Posted on 08/20/2009 8:05:14 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

A growing sense in the Republican Party that health care reform of any kind is the enemy, and attacks on the Massachusetts plan from Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty, appear to have prompted Mitt Romney to launch a defense of his legacy in that state, which now insures far more of its residents than any other.

Romney defended his plan on the Early Show this morning...

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bho2009; bho44; bhohealthcare; bipartisan; falseconservatives; falserepublicans; fascism; healthcare; kneepadrepublicans; liberalfascism; rino; rinos4obama; romney; romneycare; romneytruthfile; socialism; socializedmedicine; stenchofromney; vichy; working4obama
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To: massgopguy
"Mitt Romney violated the Contracts Clause of the 13th Amendment. "

I'm going to have to ask for a refund from my law school. I was under the impression that the 13th Amendment abolished slavery. And, I thought that Article I, section 10, clause 1 contained the "contracts clause".

41 posted on 08/20/2009 9:48:18 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: 70th Division

AMEN to that!


42 posted on 08/20/2009 10:09:09 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney- GET LOST and STFU!


43 posted on 08/20/2009 10:09:29 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: rabscuttle385

Bye bye, Mitt.

We hardly knew ye.


44 posted on 08/20/2009 10:13:29 AM PDT by adm5 (YOU CANNOT FIX CAPITALISM WITH SOCIALISM! -Glenn Beck)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Nah, he needs to keep pushing it. Everytime he does, another 1000 voters switch to Sarah.


45 posted on 08/20/2009 10:49:09 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: DAC21
He would let Mitt get away with saying that “it is working, but needs some tweaking

Yeah, it needs its neck tweaked right off. Only way to cure Romneycare is to kill it.

46 posted on 08/20/2009 10:53:00 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: staytrue
In fact, if you factor in everything, you might definitely get to $200 per person.

You should apply for a position in the Obama Administration. You have the government wishful thinking approach to math down pat.

47 posted on 08/20/2009 10:54:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: MaestroLC
I vote "no confidence" on Mitt Romney.

I vote "reeks like last week's road kill" on Mitt Romney, personally.

48 posted on 08/20/2009 10:57:10 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Antoninus

Oh, you guys just hate Mormons. /s


49 posted on 08/20/2009 11:14:53 AM PDT by redk
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To: DAC21
Mitt Romney, Hugh Hewitt and Michael Medved, what a trio.
"I'm not a partisan politician. My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses."

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50 posted on 08/20/2009 11:15:14 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: rabscuttle385
...attacks on the Massachusetts plan from Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty, appear to have prompted Mitt Romney to launch a defense of his legacy in that state...

Romney has his RomneyCare and Tim Pawlenty is a Cap & Trader (Ration & Tax).

No Thanks to both.

51 posted on 08/20/2009 11:21:55 AM PDT by RJL
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney is not going to get any traction whatsoever by arguing that the problem with the government-control of healthcare legislation before Congress is simply one of scale. It’s pretty clear to me that the real issue in the minds of the public is whether or not government should command such control at all over its citizens. When there is a revolt against one extreme, the shift is inevitably a dramatic one toward the opposite extreme, not baby-steps of retreat toward the middle, which is where Romney is unwisely seeking to position himself.

Romney certainly has the money and organizational acumen to make a legitimate presidential run, but he suffers from a distinctly tin ear when it comes to judging public sentiment. IMO, his only possible hope is to boldly come out and deem his MA healthcare program to have been a failed experiment. However, I doubt that he will do so - which is probably a good thing, because he is not the right man for either the times or the task at hand.


52 posted on 08/20/2009 11:39:37 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: rabscuttle385
Generally, I do not believe in conspiracies, and this is no exception.

However: it does seem that many in the media have collectively come to the conclusion that it is a good thing to hedge their bets and support the most liberal Republican, "just in case" Obama isn't reelected in 2012.

As Conservatives, we must resist allowing Mitt Romney to become a major player in the 2010 or 2012 elections.

I think a good place to start would be to ask your local representatives to reject Romney PAC money. He's been sprinkling cash hither and yon, collecting favors to be redeemed later.

We all know that PAC money comes with strings, and legislators can't be placed in a position to feel obliged if they don't take cash from him in the first place.

For the record, here is a list of Romney's donations to other politicians:

Mitt Romney’s Free and Strong America PAC List of Donations to Politicians & Political Organizations... Are Your Local Representatives Listed? (^)

53 posted on 08/20/2009 12:02:08 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The reaction to Obamacare and knowing Romney did something like it will finish Romney before he starts another Presidential run. Politically, Romney is roadkill.

I agree. ObamaCare has multiple bad elements: Mandates, higher taxes, govt run health insurance, taxpayer funded abortions, an 'exchange' of managed competition, bureaucrats deciding care guidelines.

Romneycare had 2-3 of 6 of these elements, in particular mandates and the exchange. A mere 'half as bad' as ObamaCare? ... and likely the 'compromise' the Democrats in Congress will fall back to if they cant get the Public Option Trojan Horse passed. Ironic - ObamaCare will be compromised down to the Romney/Mass plan position. So why vote for wimpy Republicans who would do that anyway?

Keep your mandates off my prostates!

54 posted on 08/20/2009 12:05:37 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: freekitty

“Says the insurance companies want it to stay same because they have all the say and deny you insurance.”

The DNC playbook is to bash insurance companies because they are not popular. DNC / Obama are always looking for an enemy. It’s a vile and contemptible way to lead, by egging on fear and hate.


55 posted on 08/20/2009 12:07:18 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: RobbyS
Every time he pipes us, he makes himself less acceptable to me. Whether the issue is abortion or medical, I cannot see him as the man I want as president.

Every time he pipes up, he makes himself less acceptable to me. Whether the issue is abortion or medical, I cannot see him as a the man I want as president.

There. Fixed it.

Men hold their own deeply held opinions and convictions regardless of popularity.

Men don't denigrate and belittle the sacrifices of our Men In Uniform.

Men don't obfuscate and lie about their history.

56 posted on 08/20/2009 12:07:58 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: OldDeckHand

You are correct. Keep your law school diploma.


57 posted on 08/20/2009 12:08:59 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: milwguy

“I did a quick calculation that if he was correct, it cost the state less than $200 per person to add them to the roles. “

As others may have pointed out, this ‘works’ possibly in the sense that young and healthy people who are not insured get dragooned into health insurance and in effect subsidize others to get insured. It ‘works’ by being a backdoor tax increase on those who voluntarily went without health insurance, and by enlisting them into expensive plans.


58 posted on 08/20/2009 12:11:38 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: 70th Division
Lets not let the media pick our candidate this time.

Exactly.

He is a nice guy but he is a RINO!

No. Romney plays a nice guy on TV. Real nice guys don't start unsubstantiated rumors about their opponents:

ROMNEY ANTI-PALIN

Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House, have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election. "Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012," says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin. "The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney. He's in charge on November 5th."

American Spectator (^)

(emphasis mine)

59 posted on 08/20/2009 12:16:51 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

“Romney is not going to get any traction whatsoever by arguing that the problem with the government-control of healthcare legislation before Congress is simply one of scale. It’s pretty clear to me that the real issue in the minds of the public is whether or not government should command such control at all over its citizens. When there is a revolt against one extreme, the shift is inevitably a dramatic one toward the opposite extreme, not baby-steps of retreat toward the middle, which is where Romney is unwisely seeking to position himself”

This is true. But to be fair to Romney, most of the opposition has focussed on Public Option aka single-payer Trojan Horse, not on the mandates aspect of it.

RomneyCare in Mass is built around an insurance mandate. McCain if you recall in 2008 went after Romney on mandates. Are people revolting against mandates as well? Will they oppose that part of ObamaCare as strongly as the public option?

“IMO, his only possible hope is to boldly come out and deem his MA healthcare program to have been a failed experiment.” Perhaps but it may be a flip-flop too far. He can certainly point out how ObamaCare is different from what he did in Mass.

The bottom-line is this though: We should oppose mandates. Mandates force people into insurance and set up a system tailor-made for bureaucratic control. Romney’s support for mandates needs to change or he needs to be put on the discard pile for 2012.


60 posted on 08/20/2009 12:18:09 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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