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Al-Qaeda Bombings Kill Almost 100 As Multiple Targets Hit In Baghdad [Obama Withdrawal?]
Telegraph(UK) ^
| August 19, 2009
Posted on 08/19/2009 12:33:19 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
O can follow up his “address to the Muslim world” with an address to the Iraqi people, which will surely solve this problem.
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posted on
08/19/2009 1:16:08 PM PDT
by
squidly
To: Captain Kirk
Again, the withdrawal was negotiated by Bush via the SOFA. Obama is merely carrying it out.Yeah, but imagine if Bush were still in office and trying to get Congress to pass an important administration initiative (like Obama's Healthcare 'Reform'). The Media would drop coverage of Bush's policy initiative in favor of sensationalist coverage of the Iraqi victims in an effort to tar Bush with the violence & so weaken his agenda.
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posted on
08/19/2009 1:17:46 PM PDT
by
Tallguy
("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
To: Buckhead
You are sort-of right. Maliki has his own agenda for sure and given his druthers he would just as well be another dictator. The man is no democrat. With this said, Bush was in no position to keep the democracy push going. With Obama crying ‘we surrender’ during the campaign, there was just no way Bush could have kept the pressure on Maliki.
With that said, there is a chance enough forces and good people can keep democracy going in Iraq. There are certainly powerful elements that want human rights. However, by default and in the name of respecting Iraqi ‘culture’, Obama has joined the forces in Iraq that don’t want democracy.
It’s cynical politcs on Obama’s side. Sure, he hates GWB. i get that. But, a substantial person would protect the dignity of the out-going president and therefrore; the dignity of the US of A. If you read history, it’s a precedent in this country.
But, Obama is not a substantial person. He governs and campaigns to keep the press happy. He’s in way way over his head. Once America stops feeling guilty about slavery, he’ll be replaced by an adult.
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posted on
08/19/2009 1:20:36 PM PDT
by
Mustangman
(The GOP)
To: Captain Kirk
It is not an Obama withdrawal Obama is carrying out the SOFA negotiated by Bush.
Do you think or believe that Bush would've negotiated the "withdrawal" without the pressure from the democrats and from the election cycle of 2008?
My guess is that, if it were up to Bush and his defense advisers, that Bush would not have negotiated to pull our troops out so soon. Oh, yeah, he would've eventually pulled our forces out, but not at the accelerated rate that we're doing now, and especially not from the more sensitive areas of Iraq, like the cities.
The only fault I put on Bush is that he gave in to the pressure. Most of the pressure came from the left.
So, while you may be correct in a way, you are also failing to point at the real reasons for what's happening now.
However, though Bush deserves part of the blame, Obama and the democrats deserve the most. And, when it comes to what's happening now, Obama is the commander-in-chief, and, the C-N-C cannot just simply point the finger at when the policy started and just blame Bush. As C-N-C, Obama can reverse the pull-out and re-establish our control until Iraq is "really ready" to go it alone.
So, though it is true that some people refuse to accept the facts, there are also many people who fail to examine the entire set of facts.
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posted on
08/19/2009 1:20:47 PM PDT
by
adorno
(Where is Branch 4?)
To: Steelfish
Ever notice that since 0bama took office there’s been an increase in the number of bombings in Iraq? Not a coincidence.
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posted on
08/19/2009 1:25:51 PM PDT
by
G8 Diplomat
(Iran Azadi!)
To: Captain Kirk
“It is not an Obama withdrawal Obama is carrying out the SOFA negotiated by Bush.”
he’s carrying it out poorly. sorry but Obama’s in office for over 6 months now and it’s only getting worse.
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posted on
08/19/2009 1:27:20 PM PDT
by
ari-freedom
(Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
To: G8 Diplomat
because the once he won, the terrorists also said “yes, we can!”
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posted on
08/19/2009 1:28:09 PM PDT
by
ari-freedom
(Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
To: Steelfish; All
The Illegal Alien is simply implementing his stealth strategy for losing the entire WOT, even in the places where we’ve already won.
To: ari-freedom
Yeah, they know he’s taking military advice from Weasley Clark.
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posted on
08/19/2009 1:44:27 PM PDT
by
Let's Roll
(Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
To: Steelfish
Teachable Moment! Break out the hookah pipes (I almost said Beer then realized that Muslims aren’t supposed to drink alcohol) at the White House and invite the terrorists over.
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posted on
08/19/2009 2:03:44 PM PDT
by
rom
(Israel got Saul before they got David. Where's our David?)
To: Steelfish
"And billions of dollars for my new presidential helicopter.
Among its other capabilities, it'll let me cook a meal while under nuclear attack."
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posted on
08/19/2009 2:30:13 PM PDT
by
Diogenesis
("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
To: Mustangman
Agreed that Bush cut the best deal he could, against a substantial push from the Iraqis to get us out sooner, and, as you note, tremendous domestic pressure to get out.
It will be interesting to see what happens as a result of the recent flurry of large, successful attacks by Al Qaeda.
I don’t trust Maliki or Obama do to the right or smart thing.
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posted on
08/19/2009 3:09:09 PM PDT
by
Buckhead
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