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To: TigersEye

When many use the word “fascist” they are simply using it as a pejorative. When people were calling Bush “fascist”, that was simply a smear. I challenged them to define fascist, and when they were unable to respond, I educated them and they were reduced to calling him monkey instead. Dear Leader has been RULING as a fascist (most recently demonstrated by his town hall antics).”

When I am labeling Dear Leader and Pelosi, etc., Fascist, I am NOT using it as a pejorative. I am attempting to describe as accurately as possible the system of government they espouse and are trying to bring about. I ran into a problem, though, when researching the question.

Nazi vs. Fascist: They don’t want to eliminate “class” in society (They don’t want to be saddled with the same health care as the masses, and have never bashed their rich, “high-class” or “elite” supporters.) That leads to the determination “Nazi” does not describe them as well as “Fascist”.

Now, referring to http://open-encyclopedia.com/Fascism they appear in almost every way to operate PRECISELY as Fascists but never goad people into a frenzy by extolling the virtues of the United States. They are not nationalists in the typical sense of the word. They don’t really do it with racism, either- they merely use that as a pejorative. Their goal seems to be completely “one world” or “globalist” instead in all that they try to do.

To distinguish socialists from communists, refer to http://open-encyclopedia.com/Communism ... Communism, I’ve heard it argued, has never been implemented. Apologies to Marx and Engels, but it is the supporters of communism who make that argument. Communism as it is now defined requires that there be NO “state”.

So, can we properly refer to Dear Leader et al as “Communist”? Here again we run into their definite love of CLASS and elites in society. However, I have not been able to discover a word that describes Fascism without nationalism, or alternatively, with globalism.

Either we stipulate that the “whole world” is the “nation” for Dear Leader et al, or we need a new word for their desired governmental system. I proposed “CommuFascist” earlier for this MORE EXTREME form of Fascism.

The whole point, though, is that whether this philosophy is called CommuFascist, or “Progressive”, analysis reveals that Dear Leader, Pelosi, and ALL these super-liberals are espousing a MORE EXTREME FORM of Fascism. Dear Leader is a “one-world” Mussolini.

We are being generous to these leaders of our nation when we describe them as Fascist, not pejorative. I might be calling them instead, “Progressive” or equivalently, CommuFascist.


17 posted on 08/17/2009 8:12:03 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys
"Progress" is a cover up, a lie, a DAMNED LIE!!!

You comments hit the nail on the head. Obama is clearly FASCIST,
because he espouses government control over all privately owned businesses.

19 posted on 08/17/2009 8:48:43 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: AFPhys
For more on FASCIST Obama...

Contrast and compare.

"No one will fully comprehend
the historical implications and strategy of fascist corporativism
except the true FASCIST manipulator
or the researcher
who is able to slash through the smoke screens
and disguises the fascists set up."


George Jackson, June 21, 1971

Why do you think Obama wants a UNIVERSAL CITIZEN SERVICE (see "Operation Garden Plot ) ?
It's a way around


UNIVERSAL CITIZEN SERVICE wouldn't fall under those laws, hence they could round up and kill United States Citizens.

Think it couldn't happen?


20 posted on 08/17/2009 9:18:51 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: AFPhys
CORRECTION:
21 posted on 08/17/2009 9:20:10 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: AFPhys
CORRECTION:
22 posted on 08/17/2009 9:20:33 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: AFPhys

That is a great breakdown of the meaning of those various terms. I consider 0bama a Marxist because he has studied with so many from the earliest days of his life. Also because his policies reflect Marxism and the tactics of Marxism’s later followers. As for the political philosophies themselves I loosely consider communism to be a more fascistic and more totalitarian version of socialism. In practice 0bama is turning out to be very fascistic and leans strongly towards totalitarianism in his means. He’s shaping up to be a nice mix of Stalin and Mao.


32 posted on 08/17/2009 11:59:41 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: AFPhys
CommuFascist.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Good point! I have been calling them Marxists, but your term is more correctly descriptive.

36 posted on 08/17/2009 7:08:53 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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