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Inflation, Deflation, or What Have They Done to the Currency?
Financial Sense ^ | August 10, 2009 | Rob Kirby

Posted on 08/16/2009 9:48:06 AM PDT by anonsquared

In recent weeks and months, there’s been much public debate in the financial press whether we’re going to hyper-inflate or suffer a deflationary collapse? I know this to be the case because I field many questions about this topic from readers around the world on a regular basis.

To better understand which of these two competing forces will ultimately win the day, let’s consider the following observable basics:

* In a hyper-inflation, the value of currency [in this case, fiat money] is driven toward zero as prices rise. * In a deflationary collapse, the value of currency increases as prices collapse.

But above all, folks need to understand that inflation and deflation are BOTH monetary events which manifest themselves as a result of changes in the SUPPLY OF MONEY.

snip~ worth the read and check out the charts

(Excerpt) Read more at financialsense.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deflation; inflation; worthlessdollar
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To: RipSawyer

Thank you for the link, I enjoyed that.

They are much smarter than they look.

Is one a banker?


21 posted on 08/16/2009 1:42:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Is one a banker?
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I’m not sure. “Merle Hazard” is seen on you tube doing different tunes but this is the only one I have seen with the guy he refers to as, “Bretton Woods” holding the fiddle.


22 posted on 08/16/2009 2:40:14 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: sam_paine

>>Don’t tell them where you are!<<

I don’t. I am sufficiently vague. Central Kentucky is a very big place. Of course, if “they” want you bad enough, they can find you, no matter where you are or how little you say. ;)


23 posted on 08/16/2009 3:03:28 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: anonsquared

Although I heartily agree with everything you say, I take exception to your use of words a bit. If someone is buying something, it is, by definition, a “product”. Purchased “necessities” are a subset of “products”.

So if people are only buying food and fuel, then I suppose I would want my money in related stocks...


24 posted on 08/16/2009 3:05:18 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: anonsquared; Kaslin; mr_hammer; La Lydia; dennisw; wolfcreek; 1rudeboy; Mase; Toddsterpatriot; ...

So the understanding is that what we’re heading for in the immediate future is hyperinflation with deflation, but not both at the same time?


25 posted on 08/16/2009 3:09:41 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: anonsquared

bookmark


26 posted on 08/16/2009 3:11:00 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet(I am the MOB))
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To: anonsquared
What Have They Done to the Currency?


27 posted on 08/16/2009 3:15:54 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: GOPJ; expat_panama
Zero Hedge: "Most interesting is the correlation between Money Market totals and the listed stock value since the March lows: a $2.7 trillion move in equities was accompanied by a less than $400 billion reduction in Money Market accounts!”

Why is this case of "not getting the math" so interesting?

Let's look at a stock, IBM, which has about 1.3 billion shares outstanding. If IBM goes up $1 a share, with 1.3 billion shares outstanding, market cap would increase by $1.3 billion.

Does anyone really think that it would take $1.3 billion of new money, pulled out of money market accounts, to raise the price of IBM stock by $1 per share?

28 posted on 08/16/2009 3:25:48 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: RipSawyer

Thanks again for the link. Regardless they are both great.


29 posted on 08/16/2009 4:10:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Liberty Valance

He has colored it and the Nation “RED”.


30 posted on 08/16/2009 4:11:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
a $2.7 trillion move in equities

My daughter drew a picture for me that I say is worth $10trillion --hey, there goes a $10T 'move' in the art world! 

31 posted on 08/16/2009 5:12:16 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: anonsquared
If you still have any money in the market, now would be a good time to take it off the table. It may take a month or a few months, but eventually this market has to have its RENDEZVOUS WITH REALITY.

Why take it off the table? If you know it's going to tank in a month or two, it would be a good time to short the S&P or Russell.

32 posted on 08/16/2009 6:49:00 PM PDT by 10Ring
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To: Mamzelle
SO WHO WERE THE PRIMARY BUYERS?

Primary Dealers here.

33 posted on 08/16/2009 7:43:46 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: RobRoy
If we end up with wild inflation, would that not very much be reflected in stock prices?

Yes, stocks are considered a decent inflation hedge.

34 posted on 08/16/2009 7:44:52 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 10Ring

If your retirement money is in a 401K, shorting the market is not an option.


35 posted on 08/17/2009 10:57:10 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: anonsquared

Sure it is. Buy a reverse ETF.


36 posted on 08/17/2009 12:59:25 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: anonsquared

That’s fine, but your post was not geared to 401k’s. It’s so easy to open an account at, say, Scottrade, right now and start making $7 trades. If the market is going to have a “RENDEZVOUS WITH REALITY”, you can short it quite easily and make a handsome profit.


37 posted on 08/17/2009 1:07:11 PM PDT by 10Ring
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