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'Cash For Clunkers' Program Is Expensive Way To Cut Carbon Emissions, Expert Argues
Science Daily ^ | Aug 15, 2009 | Staffwriter

Posted on 08/15/2009 3:18:18 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl

ScienceDaily (Aug. 15, 2009) — New UC Davis estimates say the federal government's "Cash for Clunkers" program is paying at least 10 times the "sticker price" to reduce emissions of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide.

While carbon credits are projected to sell in the U.S. for about $28 per ton (today's price in Europe was $20), even the best-case calculation of the cost of the clunkers rebate is $237 per ton, said UC Davis transportation economist Christopher Knittel...

...That suggests the Cash for Clunkers program is an expensive way to reduce carbon."

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10 times the "sticker price", and our representatives have poured more of our tax dollars down this money pit.
1 posted on 08/15/2009 3:18:19 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: TennesseeGirl

What’s carbon got to do with it? It’s payback to the UAW, plain and simple.


2 posted on 08/15/2009 3:32:32 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't anthropomorphize the robots. They hate that.)
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To: TennesseeGirl

It’s an expensive way to get rid of one of America’s dreams and that is to own a good car; and to put us in Yugos.

Like a muscle car. Yeah with a V-8 engine.


3 posted on 08/15/2009 3:47:09 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TennesseeGirl

This socialist program has nothing to do with cost. It’s another tactic to exert more control over the people.


4 posted on 08/15/2009 4:15:12 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: freekitty

A muscle car in reasonable shape will sell for better than the CARS credit.


5 posted on 08/15/2009 4:17:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (When did it become the Democrat You-Shut-Up-And-Listen-To-Me Tour?)
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A muscle car in reasonable shape will sell for better than the CARS credit.

That's what I don't get. I drive a car with excellent MPG, but it doesn't do all that well in city driving. A lot of these cars that are being traded in as clunkers still have life in them. The people are trading them in for a new car, which means payments.

This is a good deal....for the banks, the car companies, and meeting federal policy of cutting fuel consumption overall. But for the average owner, I'm not so sure. They might've done better picking up something for slightly more than $3500, to beat the clunker payback. Or, if their car has a few years in it, just drive it as long as possible.

6 posted on 08/15/2009 4:44:58 PM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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The truth is that the cash for clunkers program is pretty well gone bust, I stopped by four dealers today, I did not see one customer on the lots.
7 posted on 08/15/2009 5:21:31 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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I was telling my husband that 6 months down the road, the repo man is going to be verrry busy. Some people who are allowed to get these car loans are skating on thin ice already and will be hurting when the dominoes fall this winter.


8 posted on 08/15/2009 5:47:28 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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Can I opt for the corporate $20 per ton instead of the tobacco taxes I currently pay as an individual smoker?


9 posted on 08/15/2009 5:50:29 PM PDT by indyhome
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Do you live in Indiana? How much are taxes on a carton? Tennessee taxes $6.20 on a carton.


10 posted on 08/15/2009 6:29:09 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yep, I have seen some of the prices.


11 posted on 08/15/2009 7:29:57 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TennesseeGirl
Some people who are allowed to get these car loans are skating on thin ice already and will be hurting when the dominoes fall this winter.

That's the other piece of it. There's probably some assumption that people will save enough gas to help with the payments....as I posted before, the savings isn't all that great in city/suburb driving.

A TV commentator (sometimes they go out of character and say something intelligent and relevant) poimted out that a lot of carowners used this program in the midwest, where winter can be fierce. Can't you just see these drivers in their fuel efficient cars in snowstorms, instead of their huge SUVs?

12 posted on 08/16/2009 4:35:14 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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