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To: kabar
Can you bring me up to speed on two issues?

First, Obama asserted today that two thirds of the cost for adding 46 million uninsured to the insurance rolls could be found by wringing waste out of the system. As I heard him, Obama said that the Congressional Budget Office had confirmed this. I have a vague recollection that originally the Congressional Budget Office said that the savings asserted by the administration could not be made but that the administration then called in the CBO and beat them up until a new second report was issued which supported the administration. Is this correct? Does the matter now stands that the CBO backs up administration in its assertion that they can find about $30 billion a year in waste?

I think this is very important for selling this bill.

Second, are the journalists and the public conflating Sarah Palin's "death panels" with the provisions calling for payments to physicians for conducting and of life conferences? I thought the death panels alleged by Sarah Palin had to do with a board which might deny treatment to a handicapped youngster or an aged individual. Have I got it wrong? I understand the provisions for the end of life conferences, according to Grassley, have been withdrawn. But these are something different than the death panels, correct?


553 posted on 08/14/2009 4:18:39 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Obama is a Liar and it is impossible for him to speak the truth.

The Medicare program cost the taxpayers in 2009 $ 408 BILLIONS. There are 43 million people on Medicare which means each person cost $ 9,488 per year.

Now if we have 46 million new people in this new socialized medicine program and let us assume each will cost $ 9,488 a year then the cost of this new socialized medicine, Medicare not counted, is approximately $ 436 BILLION a year.

Now the Liar said that he is going to cut waste by 2/3 i.e. each person is going to cost $ 3,150 a year instead of $ 9,488 which mean they are going to receive the worst quality care because this means that doctors and hospitals will be paid much less and hence very bad service and quality health care. Even with this super bad quality and service health care i.e. $ 3,150 per person per year, the new socialized medicine program will still cost the $ 145 BILLIONS a year.

In other words no matter what the LIAR says the tax payers are going to pay at least $ 145 BILLIONS a year in new taxes to cover the new socialized medicine program. But knowing the government super waste the number in reality is at least $ 300 BILLION a year in new taxes to pay for this new socialized medicine program.

Do you want to get more scared? Imagine 300 million people are now forced to be on socialized medicine which will eventually happen if we allow this bill to pass. In this case the tax payers will pay as a minimum $ 945 BILLIONS a year in new taxes and more realistically $ 2 TRILLIONS a year in new taxes.

568 posted on 08/14/2009 8:19:20 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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