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'You pulled us out of a funeral procession'(WA)
komonews.com ^ | 11 August, 2009 | komostaff

Posted on 08/12/2009 7:58:17 PM PDT by marktwain

SPOKANE, Wash. -- When Donald Ross's sister passed, more than 100 people attended her funeral mass in Spokane.

The burial was scheduled for a nearby cemetery, but Ross and his family only made it a quarter of a mile when flashing lights forced them to the side of the road.

"Harold, his (my husband's) brother, said, 'You pulled us out of a funeral procession,'" said wife Shirley Ross.

But the deputy kept them there, writing up five citations because the driver and the passengers were not wearing a seat belts. And the sheriff's department says he had every right.

"We're out here trying to prevent funerals, not disrupt them," said Dave Reagan of Spokane County Sheriff's Office.

Those five tickets took 12 minutes to write. By the time Ross and his family members got back on the road, the burial was over.

The family members admit they weren't wearing their seat belts, but say it shouldn't have cost them the chance to say goodbye.

"It's a stage in our life where you want to give your last respects and hear the final prayers and the closing of the ceremony," Shirley Ross said. "We missed that and it's something I'll remember for as long as I live. And I think it was just uncalled for."

The deputy, who was a part of a special emphasis group, was only giving out tickets, not warnings. Donald and Shirley Ross plan to appeal theirs.

"I think it was unjust. It was totally unbelievable," said Shirley Ross.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; donutwatch; funeral; leo; lping; respectmahauthoritah; seatbelt; sheriff; wa
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To: elkfersupper
The law is an ass.

I won't argue with that.

101 posted on 08/14/2009 9:11:37 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: marktwain

It seems as if everyone going into any kind of governmental service work first has to have a lobotomy.


102 posted on 08/14/2009 9:33:42 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

People have a right to peaceably travel from place to place without being being interfered with by armed government agents.


103 posted on 08/16/2009 6:13:58 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: dcrider182

You really need to file a complaint on that one - way over the line!


104 posted on 08/16/2009 6:16:01 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: elkfersupper

People have rights, but not the right to infringe unnecessarily on the rights of others, in this case to also peaceably travel from place to place without undue fear of getting injured or causing injury.

The argument for seat belt rules touches the rights of others three ways. First, a person driving without a seat belt can more easily lose control of the car if they maneuver violently, putting others in danger. Second, in an accident people without seat belts get injured more easily, get thrown from the car into the path of other cars, and therefore can cause harm to another person either by their personal feeling about causing injury to the unbelted passenger, or running over or injuring a passenger thrown from the car.

Third and least persuasive is that either through taxes for people without insurance, or through higher insurance premiums in no-fault states, the increased injuries and costs to people driving without seat belts are passed on to others.

Now, you can disagree with all these, and based on that disagreement argue that the legislature has implemented a bad law. But the arguments are at least reasonable enough to merit discussion and to pass basic constitutional muster.

You do not have an unrestricted right to travel from place to place using the federal highway system built by tax dollars.


105 posted on 08/16/2009 8:23:25 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT (,)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I don't live in that state. I have absolutely no respect for the CHP OR California government. I didn't get his name or Badge number. It's not the worst I’ve gotten from the CHP. You'd be surprised at the lack of professionalism with them.
106 posted on 08/16/2009 9:00:53 PM PDT by dcrider182 (Islam.. it's not a religion. it's a cult... and needs to be eradicated ASAP!)
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To: dcrider182
Trust me brother you cannot surprise me with the illegal activities of the CHP. I fought them for 15 years. Put one in jail, had two fired and three reassigned to Death Valley.
107 posted on 08/17/2009 5:10:08 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
You do not have an unrestricted right to travel from place to place using the federal highway system built by tax dollars.

Yes, you do. As long as it is done peaceably.

Has nothing to do with seatbelts, booze, firearms, radios, chewing gum or anything else somebody gets all tumescent about banning or requiring.

108 posted on 08/17/2009 7:02:07 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: bvw
He singlehandedly created thousands of people who now will have this event as a a guide to police behavior, and that’s not a good thing.

This is a guide to police behavior. . . most cops are a-holes.

This is a good thing since the more people know of this the sooner we can fix it.
109 posted on 08/17/2009 8:18:43 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: elkfersupper

Without knowing your definition of “peaceably” I can’t really discuss your response.

But at least I can point out that “as long as it is done peaceably” is in fact a restriction, and therefore you are actually agreeing with me that you do not have an “unrestricted right”.

Further, as there are laws on the books that have withstood court challenges that address several of the items you claim it has “nothing to do with”, your statement is provably false in reality, and can at best be your opinion of how things SHOULD be, rather than the reality of how things are.

And if you disagree, you are free I guess to get drunk and drive down the road for a while honking your horn, waving a gun around, playing your radio at the highest volume with your seat belt off.

And when you get out of prison you can report back on how your “unrestricted right” worked. That is presuming you didn’t kill someone in the process — which obviously wouldn’t be “peaceably”.


110 posted on 08/17/2009 9:04:39 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT (,)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
you are free I guess to get drunk and drive down the road for a while honking your horn, waving a gun around, playing your radio at the highest volume with your seat belt off.

My definition of a great Sunday drive.

111 posted on 08/19/2009 7:56:54 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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