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School officials face jail time for meal-time prayers (ACLU is so helpful in Muslim cases.)
One News Now ^ | 8/11/2009 | Pete Chagnon

Posted on 08/11/2009 8:42:27 AM PDT by IbJensen

A principal and an athletic director are facing criminal charges for a lunch-time prayer.

Last year, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit against Pace High School in Santa Rosa County, Florida. The ACLU claimed some teachers and administrators were endorsing religion, but the school chose to give in to the ACLU's demands rather than fight them in court.

According to the settlement, all school employees are banned from engaging in prayer or religious activities before, during, or after school hours. Now two school officials are facing criminal charges for offering meal-time prayers at an appreciation dinner for adults who had helped with a school field house project. Principal Frank Lay and athletic director Robert Freeman are scheduled to go on trial next month on criminal contempt charges. If convicted, both are subject to fines and imprisonment.

Matt Staver is founder of Liberty Counsel, which will argue the court order prohibiting prayer at school-related events violated Lay's and Freeman's constitutional rights.

(Excerpt) Read more at onenewsnow.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: aclu; christiansandjews; libertycounsel; muslims; muslimstudents; voluntaryprayer
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Muslims get foot baths and nasal passage cleaners so they'll be fit as a fiddle and ready for scraping their foreheads on the floors in public buildings!

Christians and Jews get short shrift, but the Jews keep voting for the liberal Marxist loonies that dream up these cave-ins.

Does it make sense to be fighting the taliban abroad while our nation is filling up with muslims of all colors?

1 posted on 08/11/2009 8:42:28 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
According to the settlement, all school employees are banned from engaging in prayer or religious activities before, during, or after school hours.

The root of the problem is this deal with the devil. This supersedes any court case finding the opposite (especially for after school functions with volunteers).

2 posted on 08/11/2009 8:50:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: IbJensen
If convicted, both are subject to fines and imprisonment.

...nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

Hmmm....

3 posted on 08/11/2009 8:50:27 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: IbJensen

Can’t offer a prayer: isn’t that content-based censorship?


4 posted on 08/11/2009 8:51:20 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ( “Nice country you got here. Be a shame if anything happened to it...”)
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To: IbJensen
Meanwhile, we make special accommodations to allow muslim prayer in school. http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/126108-muslim-prayer-public-schools.html
(link just gives a short excerpt; have to register for the whole thing)
5 posted on 08/11/2009 8:55:16 AM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: IbJensen

Is this poorly reported, or does the settlement really forbid, say, school employees attending church?


6 posted on 08/11/2009 8:57:46 AM PDT by JenB
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"...nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Context.

The school agreed in court to abide by certain rules. Some individuals didn't. They face contempt charges. It wouldn't matter what the underlying issue was, you don't defy a court and not expect a consequence.

As for the free excercise, the school officials are working in a government institution. It's not *their* free excercise at issue, it's the student's.

7 posted on 08/11/2009 8:58:27 AM PDT by mlo
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To: JenB
According to the settlement, all school employees are banned from engaging in prayer or religious activities before, during, or after school hours.

From this sentence it could mean exactly that. Of course the Anti-American, Anti-God ACLU couldn't mean something as draconian as that could they?

Muslims don't have such problems in our school there is a constant scrambling to supply them with any edict necessary for them to practice their 'evil' religion.

8 posted on 08/11/2009 9:01:25 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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Man, and our school board meetings still have a prayer in Jesus name offered by a minister (not a tiny town, either).


9 posted on 08/11/2009 9:02:08 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

May the god of allah bless the oracle in our midst who is known to us as Obama the Magnificent.


10 posted on 08/11/2009 9:02:45 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That settlement is flat unconstitutional. School employees may do so so long as they do not push it on the kids.


11 posted on 08/11/2009 9:02:46 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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This is in the next county over from where I live. We are in the most conservative area of FL with a huge percentage of the population being Air Force folks. This isn’t Detroit or somewhere like that.


12 posted on 08/11/2009 9:03:27 AM PDT by JenB
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Is it time to round up the troops?


13 posted on 08/11/2009 9:03:44 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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“According to the settlement, all school employees are banned from engaging in prayer or religious activities before, during, or after school hours.”

Which means they can't go to church for instance. This is unconstitutional. It is illegal to discriminate based on religious beliefs or prohibit the practice of religion. Whoever made this court order ought to be on trial for violation of the school districts employees civil rights. They are the ones who should be going to prison.

14 posted on 08/11/2009 9:36:08 AM PDT by monday
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Islamists demand special privileges and always get them. This satisfies their belief that they are superior to other people. Granting privileges is admission of inferiority.
15 posted on 08/11/2009 9:38:24 AM PDT by oyez
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To: mlo
The school agreed in court to abide by certain rules. Some individuals didn't. They face contempt charges. It wouldn't matter what the underlying issue was, you don't defy a court and not expect a consequence.

From how I read the ruling, the school agreed to something they had no legal right to impose upon their staff. The ruling said that their employees could not engage in religeous activities before, during, or after school. This clearly violates the 1st Amendment.

As for the free excercise, the school officials are working in a government institution. It's not *their* free excercise at issue, it's the student's.

Working for a government institution does not equate to surrendering Constitutionally protected rights. The student is free to leave the vacinity if they prefer not to participate. The prayer was not mandatory.

16 posted on 08/11/2009 9:38:47 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: IbJensen

Christian and Jewish prayers call upon G-d to bring His blessings upon us. That other middle-eastern death cult asks their deity to help them kill Christians and Jews.

That’s why the aclu helps one and not the other.


17 posted on 08/11/2009 9:41:14 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (both the left and the jihadis want to destroy Western Civilization, and have already started)
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To: mlo
“The school agreed in court to abide by certain rules. Some individuals didn't. They face contempt charges. It wouldn't matter what the underlying issue was, you don't defy a court and not expect a consequence. “

The court order itself is unconstitutional. The school district can regulate what employees do during work hours, but the constitution expressly forbids discrimination due to religion or prohibiting the free expression of religious beliefs. This means that the court order was illegal in that it cannot prohibit school employees from practicing religion during non school hours. See #14.

18 posted on 08/11/2009 9:43:22 AM PDT by monday
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To: rwfromkansas

At our’s, the sports announcer duitifully reads the ruling about no prayer and then calls for a moment of silence as Amazing Grace is played.


19 posted on 08/11/2009 9:44:15 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: IbJensen

ACLU is the founder and enforcer of selective enforcement!

They surely must have been the ones in biblical history that encouraged Daniel to be threw in the den of lions, and the three young Hebrews to be tossed into the fiery furnace!

Let us not forget who actually was devoured by the lions, and who were consumed in the fiery furnace!


20 posted on 08/11/2009 9:44:43 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonyous)
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