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NY-23: Owens Gets the Democratic Nod
PolitickerNY ^ | August 10, 2009 | Jimmy Vielkind

Posted on 08/10/2009 9:25:26 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT

BLUE MOUNTAIN LAKE—It's Bill Owens.

Nearly 12 hours after they first convened at the Minnowbrook Conference Center on the shore of this Adirondack gem, the 11 county party chairs comprising the 23rd Congressional District picked Bill Owens, a Plattsburgh attorney, as the Democratic Party's candidate to replace John McHugh in Congress.

He will face Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava, the Republican designee, and Doug Hoffman, the pick of the Conservative Party.

A special election to replace McHugh has not yet been set, but it is expected to fall on Election Day in November.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: congress; hoffman; mchugh; ny2009; ny23; owens; scozzafava; specialelection; thirdparty
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“But then, I wonder if Steele ever bothered to pick up a phone and tell them to do the right thing ?”

From what I understand a call would have little (or no) effect, but you’re right...it might have been worth the effort...I think we need a war time conigliere, though...that just was so hard to believe and it is so outrageous...


21 posted on 08/10/2009 10:07:19 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

IF I were a betting man, I would say Owens is a lock. Unless Dede is removed or drops out. But don’t tell everybody.


22 posted on 08/10/2009 10:10:04 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: campaignPete R-CT

If he wins, it will be by a plurality. Given the toxic climate, the GOP would be able to hold it if they put up a candidate not viscerally antithetical and offensive to the base. How can the national party, with a straight face, come up and help someone OPPOSED to the party agenda in DC ?


23 posted on 08/10/2009 10:15:50 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: jessduntno

It’s just amazing, with a President whose approvals drop lower by the day, we still haven’t made a single gain since the November elections federally. Lost two Senate seats since and a House seat, and haven’t seriously contested other seats elsewhere. Steele will try to claim victory in NJ & VA for the Governorships, but that won’t have squat to do with him, and neither will change how many seats we’ve dropped in Congress. We’d already won some specials by this point in ‘93 after Bubba had been in 6 months.


24 posted on 08/10/2009 10:19:00 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
Anybody thought of voting for the conservative candidate and not the GOP candidate?
25 posted on 08/10/2009 10:20:48 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: fieldmarshaldj

i’m sure they will wish this one just would go away.
They will run attack ads on Owens. I will drop by Dede headquarters to see what kinda freaks would possibly work this race.

The leftists may be repulsed by Owens and show up in Dede headquarters. The Socialist Republicans movement of upstate NY. All the Univ VT students at Burlington will go over and work for her.


26 posted on 08/10/2009 10:22:25 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: montanajoe

All of us. Maybe the Slick Willardbots will go work for Dede. They love Socialists.


27 posted on 08/10/2009 10:24:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: montanajoe

yes, read the information is the thread.

It shows that the NARAL/Gay forces are more versatile and creative than the conservatives are. Of course, the only “conservative” Dems that are allowed to run are the ones approved by DNC.


28 posted on 08/10/2009 10:25:48 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Burlington leftists work ? They’d have to put down the bongs, hashish pipes and step away from the drum circles... hell, if they stepped inside a building marked “Republican HQ”, they might spontaneously combust.


29 posted on 08/10/2009 10:26:16 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
I read the thread and got confused..my bad ha ha. So the dims in NY pick the conservative candidate? Seems ass backward to me.
30 posted on 08/10/2009 10:29:43 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe

They’re not really Conservative, they just pretend that they are so the “idiot voters” will think they’re not voting moonbat when they vote Dem.


31 posted on 08/10/2009 10:34:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
That's to bad I was hoping there were some real conservatives running. In my view we need Conservatives and not Republicans running everywhere.
32 posted on 08/10/2009 10:39:51 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Many average folks are not aware of this tactic used by the democrats in certain locations. If this is happening in your location start an information campaign or better yet, get a true blue conservative to run against these type of political opportunists in the primary. The hypocrisy should be exposed immediately.

By God’s grace this evil will be overturned.


33 posted on 08/10/2009 10:46:09 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Never explain yourself, Your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe it.)
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To: montanajoe

The Conservative Republican is Hoffman, so there is a choice.


34 posted on 08/10/2009 11:00:47 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave

There was no primary here, these were people chosen by the local party chieftains. Literally only a handful of people decided the candidates.


35 posted on 08/10/2009 11:01:43 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: montanajoe

Conservatives can’t win everywhere or even in most districts. Statewide election of conservatives is extremely rare. You can’t surrender all the country which does not elect conservatives and hope to have any political power. And the nation has never really been conservative in any case.

We have to figure out how to win in urban areas especially the big cities or the GOP will be minority for a long time.

But the overriding problem is the total hostility of the media to anything faintly resembling conservative or traditional ideas. People must fight their way through a minefield of misinformation, disinformation and out right lies to get to the truth. Too few have the will to fight.


36 posted on 08/10/2009 11:11:49 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: arrogantsob; fieldmarshaldj
Conservatives can’t win everywhere or even in most districts.

We've got a live one here. Have fun!

37 posted on 08/10/2009 11:22:06 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

When did stating the obvious become controversial?

Why don’t you give me the names of those members of the Senate elected by the People of a state whom you consider to be safely conservative by your standards? Or even the number? Is it over a handful?


38 posted on 08/10/2009 11:37:15 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: arrogantsob

The world is not safe for anyone, much less conservatives. A complete defeatism is purposeless, except for our opponents. As far as how optimistic I am, see my homepage.


39 posted on 08/10/2009 11:49:25 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Politics is the art of the possible. Optimism is fine and I have nothing against it but it should be noted that even the most optimistic optimist pounding his head against a stone wall is bound to lose his optimism.

Politically we must determine whose votes we want and how to get them. Traditionally, Americans avoid the extremes of the political spectrum so we must understand how to win within that history.

We must also take over the instruments of public influence: media, foundations, education, etc. It has been by this means that the Left has achieved near total control of the American mind.

I am not pessismistic at all but this fight is way beyond what most understand to be involved. Just as Sulla and Marius were not just in conflict personally but from far more significant causes arising over hundreds of years and not resolved is less than a century.

We are just in the beginning of America’s Age of Conflict and it is yet to be seen if the nation can reform itself and begin another era of growth and achievement.


40 posted on 08/11/2009 12:02:34 AM PDT by arrogantsob
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