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'Un-American' attacks can't derail health care debate By Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer
USA Today | 08/10/2009 | By Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer

Posted on 08/10/2009 3:12:46 AM PDT by RaceBannon

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To: RaceBannon

Does anyone have a link to the full bill?


141 posted on 08/10/2009 9:03:23 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Brugmansian

To post, the poster has to be able to compose coherent thoughts and use grammar and parts of speech with some dexterity, not much, but some. From the looks of the ACORN and SEIU folks I’ve seen on the vids, that skill might be waaaayyyy above their pay grade.


142 posted on 08/10/2009 9:09:07 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: eyedigress

you can find it on
http://www.thehartfordteapartypatriots.com under the health care bill details page


143 posted on 08/10/2009 9:09:35 AM PDT by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: meyer
Just sent a couple of screen grabs as JPG images to Glen Beck via email. Hope that he can use them.

Thanks for doing that...

144 posted on 08/10/2009 9:14:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal paid protesters ...http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/2310139/replies?c=22)
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To: RaceBannon

AHHHHHHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!

oh, I laughing so hard at this bit of irony that the tears are rolling down my cheeks....only they are not just tears from laughter are they?


145 posted on 08/10/2009 9:15:49 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Radical Left Plans to Shutdown Financial System in October

I'm betting this is a "conspiracy". These lefty anarchists don't know it, but they are being set up as fall guys to let the haloed one establish his creds. He, with Holder's thugs, will stop any effort to shut down Wall street and and will portray these loons as being aligned with the Tim mcVeigh anti govt militias and somehow connect them all to talk radio. Okay, maybe far fetched, but I think the first part about using the anarchists to establish his creds as a defender of America is possible.

146 posted on 08/10/2009 9:17:41 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: manc
is the media talking about paid THESE AD;s for the Dems this is an outrage

No, our suck up press is out there scouring the nation looking for one Republican who is paid - overlooking hundreds of ads trying to recruit the unemployed to pretend to be "concerned Dems".... Everything about the democrats is a lie. And their "rent a crowd" tactics work well with the press - people who want to be tricked.

147 posted on 08/10/2009 9:18:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal paid protesters ...http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/2310139/replies?c=22)
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To: RaceBannon; All

Just thought I would share what a very active (in military affairs) retired Air Force Colonel wrote to Obama. Long, but excellent. We are not UNAMERICAN.

“My letter is drafted largely from that of some of my friends that are also fed up
with the destruction of America that is taking place.

- The current government is what our founding fathers fought to prevent.

- If I should suddenly disappear or have my last five IRS returns audited or have my bank account drop unaccountably to zero, you’ll know what happened.

SHADOW

Dear President Barack Hussein Obama,

In order to save some time and effort on the part of the minions that you have
encouraged to spy on me, I am writing to turn myself in regarding your official
White House request for people to contact you and let you know if they have
heard any rumors or “casual conversations,” or seen any e-mails surfacing
against your so-called ‘health insurance reform’ bill. It appears that you would
rather provide health care to illegal aliens than retired military veterans!

Not only have I seen these things, but I have also forwarded them to everyone in
my address book, posted about them on blogs, message boards, and Face Book ad
nauseam and I have discussed them (out loud!) in public restaurants during
dinner parties with my friends and family members. I have exposed the absurdity
of your scheme to destroy America over the phone, internet, and fax when I
corresponded with my duly elected representatives in an effort to let them know
my views against this horrific bill so that they can actually REPRESENT me in
voting against it. I’ve signed several internet petitions and done everything
I can to oppose this crap you call “health care” - it’s a travesty!

I have actually dared to exercise my FREEDOM of SPEECH (as guaranteed by the
Constitution of the United States the last time I looked) in my frequent
writings against this bill to deconstruct my way of life.

I listen to talk radio. Worse yet, I listen to CONSERVATIVE talk radio with the
likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Congressman J.D. Hayworth.
And to top that off, I actually LAUGHED at several jokes that may not have been
as politically correct on this issue as you demand, but at least they weren’t
directed at innocent Special Olympic kids.

Oh yeah... Barbara Boxer will be smug to hear from you that she was right about
us manufactured mob “types”... I dress nicely for a member of a mob ~ oh, not as
lavishly as Michelle with her $500 tennis shoes that she wears to garden in, but
I’m probably a little more presentable than most of the “entitled” thugs in your
frenzied mob ~ you know, the poor, disadvantaged, and uneducated lazy bums you
have inspired to join ACORN to train to be “professional” agitators.

OK ~ I’m guilty as charged! I’m a conservative, pro-life, hazel-eyed, balding,
white man who owns a gun, vote Republican, and is old enough for AARP (Though
I wouldn’t belong to that left wing group). English is my only language. I’m a
university educated, patriotic, LEGALLY born (proven), tax-paying, retired hard
working American who loves his country with no apologies and I don’t bow down to
anyone, let alone terrorist dictators. I support the troops, respect my elders,
and eat too much apple pie, so there’s plenty of me for your health Czar to
shun in public. People know who I am. None of my records are sealed. I’m not
afraid and don’t hide my true self behind LIES or a platoon of highly paid
attorneys like you do.

I don’t appreciate you screwing over America, so I’m going to continue to
express my TRANSPARENT, WIDE OPEN, HELL BENT FOR LEATHER opinion against your
pompous, radical actions in every way I can.

So, what the HELL is your Health Czar going to do about it?

Sincerely,

Colonel, USAF-Ret
Front Royal, VA


148 posted on 08/10/2009 9:20:04 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: MichiganConservative
If we beat this “health care” bill in the next few weeks, we cannot believe that the war is over. I am afraid that many, if not most will assume that, if the bill is killed in this session, that everything is hunky dory and that we live in a free country. No. That is totally wrong. We don’t live in a free country now, even without this health care bill.

Agreed , but we need a Midway, we need a solid signature victory to gather momentum and take back the message. Since 2006 we have been back on our heels, rocked back there by the likes of Bush and McCain and their RINO ways. It’s why the left is locked in the death struggle over this, and why we will prevail. We defeat this and we do the same with Cap and Tax and other key Obama initiatives. We stem the tide until 2010, and then make it legislatively impossible for Obama to get anything passed. Resign him to his executive duties and stop being the Legislator in Chief. They are scared, real scared at the ferocity at which we hit back.

149 posted on 08/10/2009 9:26:13 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: RaceBannon
King George III felt the actions of his subjects in the colonies were Un-English in the 1700s. We all know how that ended.
150 posted on 08/10/2009 9:27:15 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: RaceBannon

151 posted on 08/10/2009 9:31:39 AM PDT by 444Flyer (They have their ACORNS, WE have AMERICANS!)
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To: STONEWALLS

bump to read this thread at home so I can follow the links.


152 posted on 08/10/2009 9:38:24 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/08/unamerican-attacks-cant-derail-health-care-debate-.html#more

Also, interesting post at #37.

153 posted on 08/10/2009 9:40:56 AM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: RaceBannon
Pelosi says that a 'DEBATE' is:

Sit down. Shut up. Listen!

154 posted on 08/10/2009 9:42:06 AM PDT by mckenzie7 (I am a European American! Silly me. I never realized that before! Thanks, oh great unifier!)
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To: RaceBannon

ATTENTION.You are leaving NorthEast Amerika Sector,You are entering the Midwest Amerika Sector No Freedom Zone, under Governor Rahm Emmanuel. You will extend arm for scanning and state clearly what is your reason for entering Midwest Sector! No joking or complaining or you will be forcibly rebuked. Absolutely no bribes allowed. If everything is in order, you will pledge allegiance to King Obama , and paying Breathing Air Tax and turn in all food, and gold and we will let you enter the Midwest Sector! We have scanned your car for Bibles and guns and food. You will cooperate.

155 posted on 08/10/2009 9:42:21 AM PDT by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: RaceBannon

Pelosi is Un-American!


156 posted on 08/10/2009 9:44:37 AM PDT by fishygate
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


157 posted on 08/10/2009 9:46:49 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: eyedigress

We have been trying to get “readable” material and links to entire bill on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2312304/posts

If Fester hasn’t posted his on the bottom of the thread follow the link to his post on another thread. IMO It’s the most complete easiest to understand yet.

It is our knowledge of the bill that will defeat them.


158 posted on 08/10/2009 9:47:53 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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Nancy won’t be voted out of office, but we can make her a back bencher by taking back the congress in 2010.


159 posted on 08/10/2009 9:48:09 AM PDT by Gan Gan
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To: nutmeg; StarFan; mewzilla; Sister_T; 1 Olgoat; 103198; 10Ring; 11Bush; 1stbn27; 2ndClassCitizen; ...

Here’s the trick dems use so they only have to hire 4 “high pay grade” goons for each meeting.

Dems use the following technique at “townhall meetings” - be prepared...

...the Diamond Techniques is designed to convince the group that as few as four people represent the majority. Here is the strategy:

1. Plan ahead of time what action you want the group to take: nominate or oppose a candidate, support or oppose an issue, heckle a speaker, or whatever. Everyone on your team must know exactly what they are going to do, including contingency plans.

2. Team members should arrive at the meeting separately and never congregate together.

3. Team players should arrive early enough to take seats around the outside of the assembly area, roughly in the shape of a diamond. They must not sit together.

4. The object of the tactic is place your people around the perimeter of the audience so that, when they begin to take action, those in the center will have to do a lot of head turning to see them – to the right, then the left, then the rear of the room, then the front, etc. The more they turn their heads, the greater the illusion of being surrounded by people in agreement with each other, and the more they will be convinced that these people represent the majority opinion.

I have seen this tactic used by collectivists at numerous public meetings over the years, and I have participated in it myself on several occasions when confronting collectivists in their own tightly held organizations. It works. The only way to thwart the Diamond Tactic is to always be prepared to match it with your own team.

Never take a meeting for granted, especially if something important is scheduled to transpire, such as nomination of officers.
Even a simple gathering to hear an important speaker can turn into a nightmare if opponents send in hecklers.
So, always plan for the worst and be prepared to spring into action with comments from the floor such as: “I want to make it clear that these people do not speak for me. I am in total opposition to what they stand for. In fact, I would like to ask them to identify themselves. Who are you? Why did you come to this meeting? What is your agenda?”
If comments such as this are heard from three or four people around the outside of the room, the meeting will be very exciting, but the tactic will be defused.


160 posted on 08/10/2009 9:51:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal paid protesters ...http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/2310139/replies?c=22)
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