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Fla. to stop giving diplomas for GED graduates ( Punishing the smart, hard working kids )
Associated Press ^ | August 9, 2009

Posted on 08/09/2009 12:58:05 PM PDT by george76

Florida is changing its policy on youths who opt for a GED to finish high school in less than four years.

Until now, those looking for a shortcut could earn the same diploma as others. But Education Commissioner Eric Smith says that's not fair...

So Smith has notified school districts that all who take the General Educational Development test must now receive a high school equivalency diploma, just like dropouts who later go through the GED process.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbc-2.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: diploma; education; ged; graduation; highschool; homeschool; homeschoolers; homeschooling; nea; teachersunion; teens; union; unions
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1 posted on 08/09/2009 12:58:05 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

oh boy


2 posted on 08/09/2009 12:58:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: metmom

the Good Enough Degree


3 posted on 08/09/2009 1:00:29 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Gee that is just great. My friend dropped out of high school and went back to school, studied HARD, and got her GED. Two of my AUNTS were in her class! They had dropped out as kids because they were NEEDED on the farm to pick cotton, etc. They didn’t quit because they WANTED to.

This is a disgrace!


4 posted on 08/09/2009 1:01:34 PM PDT by buffyt (Obama Administration is SO STASI, KGB, Red Chinese, Nazi, North Korean, terroristic!)
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To: george76

Trying to stop declining enrollment, apparently. Or make that declining attendance.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 1:02:05 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: george76

If you don’t take the years of classes at a public school everyone else is required to take, why should you get their degree? You, as a student who wants to skip out of high school ASAP, even take the GED to end your high school days. Why shouldn’t you get a GED degree?

I’d like to know what happens to home schooled children who never attend a high school at all.


6 posted on 08/09/2009 1:03:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (The UN has never won a war, nor a conflict, but liberals want it to rule all militaries.)
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To: george76

Well, I still think it was great that my aunts were able to go to night school and receive their GEDs. Their kids were all college grads, and my aunts didn’t want the kids to know they never got diplomas. So they got the GED and then they never had to tell their kids they didn’t have diploma.


7 posted on 08/09/2009 1:04:15 PM PDT by buffyt (Obama Administration is SO STASI, KGB, Red Chinese, Nazi, North Korean, terroristic!)
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To: ElayneJ
They want to keep people in the indoctrination camps longer since the smart ones need more ‘instructions’. /s

What fools!

Who cares how long it takes if they pass the same test?

8 posted on 08/09/2009 1:05:50 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: george76

My High School Equivalency Diploma is the same as a High School Diploma.

Got it after I dropped out in 10th grade at 16 and went back to night school for 2 years.

A couple of companies that I worked for, over the years, required a H.S. Diploma and didn’t accept GED’s.


9 posted on 08/09/2009 1:08:58 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: george76
Sorry. I don't have a problem with this. If you decide to get a GED, you should get a GED certificate. Why should it matter what age you are when you decide to get your GED?

To get a high school diploma, you should have to complete the required number of high school credits. Students who are ‘in a hurry’ might be better served by taking a few college courses (on campus or on-line) during their senior year in high school. Most community colleges offer opportunities for high school students to get a jump on collecting college credits, and some school districts even pay for (or subsidize) the tuition.

10 posted on 08/09/2009 1:12:45 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: george76

I got my GED in the Army in 1969. My High School District didn’t issue diplomas to GED folks. I wennt on to college without a HS diploma.


11 posted on 08/09/2009 1:13:52 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: george76

Some of the brightest people I know have GED’s. They opted out of the public school ed-je-ma-cation system due to its ever so slow paced curriculum that’s designed to teach at the slowest student’s pace.

All were enrolled into college at 17, and one is a doctor.

I’d tread lightly on people with GED’s.

Not to mention all the business people in the US that have NO formal education, yet they are millionaires.

My uncle being one of them.


12 posted on 08/09/2009 1:15:09 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Mine took the GED.


13 posted on 08/09/2009 1:17:17 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: george76

Did anyone ever consider that you actually have to pass a test to get a GED? Can the same be said for HS?


14 posted on 08/09/2009 1:18:13 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: ConservativeMind

Many home schooled kids get the GEDs and go onto college. It seems the GEDs are not looked down on as much as they used to be.


15 posted on 08/09/2009 1:19:32 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: george76

No one gives a damn about High school once you hit college.


16 posted on 08/09/2009 1:19:58 PM PDT by John Will
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To: ConservativeMind

A lot of colleges are “punishing” homeschoolers by not accepting them because they do not have “accredited” diplomas. An option what many homeschoolers do is, although they homeschool their kids they go for the GED to have the stupid piece of paper to show colleges, etc that yes, they are indeed educated. The GED makes it easier to get college acceptance, scholarships, grants, etc. In our state, you can get the HOPE grant/scholarship if you have a diploma, and don’t have to jump through as many hoops.

Truthfully, I feel this is an attempt to take an option away from homeschooling parents.


17 posted on 08/09/2009 1:20:15 PM PDT by HomeschoolMomma (Packing for re-education camp as we speak!)
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To: george76
I recently saw part of a final test for a GED here in NYC.
I was shocked at how easy it was. I guess I'm in some sort of reverse time warp because when I went to Catholic school in the 60’s you needed to get at least an 80 to pass my school's extremely difficult exams. My stepson on the other hand attended public school in NYC where 55 was the passing grade on several tests he took. Bloomberg is prancing around this city bragging about the higher graduation rates in his public schools when the truth is a kid has to be a virtual idiot today not to graduate.
18 posted on 08/09/2009 1:22:33 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
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To: george76; wintertime
Seems a very different system than what we have in PA. Here's the rule for under-18's from www.able.state.pa.us:


If you are 16 or 17 years of age, you must meet the [basic credentials] criteria and also provide written verification from your school superintendent or principal stating that you are withdrawn from school. In addition, you must provide a letter from one of the following:
* A letter from an employer stating that you must pass the GED tests in order to gain or maintain employment
* A letter from a college or postsecondary training institution stating that passing GED test scores are required for enrollment
* A letter from a branch of the Armed Services stating that passing GED test scores are necessary for induction
* A letter requesting GED scores from the director of a state institution in which you are a resident, patient or inmate

These letters must be written on company/school letterhead and signed by the appropriate staff. Persons 16 years old and older who are under the direction of correctional facilities or parole/probation offices are eligible to take the GED tests while enrolled in school, if so ordered by a court. No persons under the age of 16 are eligible to take the GED tests in Pennsylvania.

In other words, to take the GED in PA, you need to have a position lined up, or a court order. Just wanting to advance in life because you're gifted is not a good reason.
And if I am reading it correctly, a homeschooled student would not be able to take the GED without the approval of the local superintendent of schools, some of whom are very uncooperative with homeschoolers.

(ping to wintertime for homeschool interest)

19 posted on 08/09/2009 1:24:45 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: goldfinch
“To get a high school diploma, you should have to complete the required number of high school credits.”

I think that in most states you only have to take the required courses to finish high school, and then score high enough on the GED, and the schools system that gave the tests is required by law to give you a regular HS diploma.

I'm not positive, but I think that is a Federal law.

The reason the law was passed was because foreign diplomas weren't accepted here, and a college prof from a foreign country wouldn't even have a HS diploma.

20 posted on 08/09/2009 1:26:53 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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