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California Won't Accept Its Own IOUs
Courthouse News ^ | 08/04/09 | MARIA DINZEO

Posted on 08/09/2009 4:51:50 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

California Won't Accept Its Own IOUs

By MARIA DINZEO

SAN FRANCISCO (CN) - Small businesses that received $682 million in IOUs from the state say California expects them to pay taxes on the worthless scraps of paper, but refuses to accept its own IOUs to pay debts or taxes. The vendors' federal class action claims the state is trying to balance its budget on their backs.

Lead plaintiff Nancy Baird filled her contract with California to provide embroidered polo shirts to a youth camp run by the National Guard, but never was paid the $27,000 she was owed. She says California "paid" her with an IOU that two banks refused to accept - yet she had to pay California sales tax on the so-called "sale" of the uniforms.

The class consists mostly of small business owners, many of whom rely on income from government contracts to keep afloat. They say California has used them as "suckers" as it looks for a way to bankroll its operations while avoiding its own financial obligations.

(Excerpt) Read more at courthousenews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; iou
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1 posted on 08/09/2009 4:51:50 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It s/b illegal for Calfornia to make purchases when it does not have money to make payment.


2 posted on 08/09/2009 4:54:57 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...
As we have suspected, state can issue IOU’s but won't take it as payment.
3 posted on 08/09/2009 4:56:05 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Refusing to take their own IOU’s will be a court case they will lose shortly.
4 posted on 08/09/2009 4:56:56 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: org.whodat

Maybe, if they can get it heard in a Federal court. State court? Not so much.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 4:59:35 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This is precisely the reason to never, never, never have it so you're due a tax return....which might never appear. Have your accountant calculate returns carefully enough so that you owe a little bit at the end of the year. It's much safer that way.


6 posted on 08/09/2009 4:59:55 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

good thing that Dems and RINOs can walk on water.


7 posted on 08/09/2009 5:00:58 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

I guess that California wants to decrease the number of folks willing to do business with it.


8 posted on 08/09/2009 5:04:14 AM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
LOL... now pass the popcorn

Now this is getting interesting

9 posted on 08/09/2009 5:10:28 AM PDT by davidosborne (KeyWords: palin2012, sarahpalin2012)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is insane, people cannot cash these stupid IOU’s to pay employee’s, costs of materials, taxes.

Rush warned people about Arnold.


10 posted on 08/09/2009 5:22:08 AM PDT by stockpirate (..."when the government fears the people, there is liberty. "- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Liberalism is all about your money not theirs.


11 posted on 08/09/2009 5:29:14 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (thirst for absolute power is the natural disease of monarchy - Thomas Paine)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That simply means the state of California has defaulted on its debt.

Very unwise to hold California paper, whether it is an IOU or bond at this point.


12 posted on 08/09/2009 5:30:44 AM PDT by DB
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I suspected.

But, even more disturbing: our federal monies, which are made of paper, have no intrinsic value (unlike gold or silver coinage) and is only valuable because the government tells us these scraps of linen paper are worth something... just like CA told people its IOUs were worth something.


13 posted on 08/09/2009 5:31:41 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Argentina, here we come!


14 posted on 08/09/2009 5:35:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

I would argue before a court that California should not have a choice about taking their IOUs as payment. An IOU is an official recognition of debt and the “payment” would simply be a reduction in that debt. That should actually be a fairly easy win in any court.


15 posted on 08/09/2009 5:42:45 AM PDT by politicalmerc (If Birthers are so silly, then why not show the BC and put them to shame?)
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To: org.whodat

We don’t know the whole story. What was the language on the notes? If the notes indicated they were not acceptable by the State for payments of various taxes, it might be difficult.

The vendor should have refused acceptance and continued to bill the state and adding late fees and interest.


16 posted on 08/09/2009 5:52:12 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khitab)
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To: bert

No State Shall Make Anything but Gold and Silver Coin a Legal Tender in payment Of Debt


17 posted on 08/09/2009 5:56:19 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Uh Duh!! Like they are like worthless dude!


18 posted on 08/09/2009 6:04:24 AM PDT by timetostand
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Just a complex way for the state to confiscate the assets of legitimate businesses while saying that it isn’t.

In other words, government gradually taking over the means of production. (see communist manifesto)


19 posted on 08/09/2009 6:05:23 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberal agenda: prescription for pathological dependence - Rossiter)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So the way I see this any contractor who has good sense will stop taking government contracts.

How long can California survive when people stop working for them?


20 posted on 08/09/2009 6:20:35 AM PDT by Venturer
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