Posted on 08/08/2009 9:20:49 PM PDT by MindBender26
Edited on 08/08/2009 9:33:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Apparently you failed to notice I didn’t
post the thread.
Regardless, it would be wise to cool down.
It's only of interest in that it *could* affect his citizenship status.
And because it could also have affected his chances of being elected if it had been known, for certain, before the election. We might have had President Hillary. :)
I agree, but only to the extent that it has nothing to do with "natural born" citizenship. Just citizenship.
IF YOU HIDE SOMETHING, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE
It’s not just ONE document. We have to see them all. Look at this 22 second video by U.S. Senator from New York Chuck Schumer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ6iLuyCAx0
He says:
“When you are running for president everything should be public including your full medical records. I believe in a right to privacy, but when you are running for president, which is such an important job, the need of the public to know supercedes it.”
Please, write to everyone you can. We need medical records, school, passport, birth certificate. EVERYTHING, because noone knows who he is.
For example: he could have been treated for mental illnes, or he could have been a u.s. citizen and applied for and got foreign aid or scholarships (maybe it was easier for a foreign aid student to get money).
It’s not JUST about the birth certificate. He is hiding it all because there is something very wrong with him.
Turns out not to be quite correct. The state department has said that the issue is not settled as a matter of law. So while it's not been recognized that there is a difference, it's also not been recognized that there is not.
No, he's one of the guys who "outed" John F'n Kerry. He is thus responsible for the term, whether used derisively or in admiration, "Swift Boating".
You earned a check of your past postings. You think you are the first genius to come up with this stuff? Anyway, you pass a troll check. So, one day I will take the time to bring you up to speed. But as its 4 am, thats not today.
I never said that I wasn’t a “Citizen”.
I am not a ‘”Natural-born” Citizen, as my parents had a allegiance to the British Crown.
Your interpretation, based on faulty logic. What they overruled was the idea that he could not be a citizen at all. The minority could have stated a lot of things, some of which the majority would agree with, some they would not. What they actually ruled is what counts. They ruled that he was a citizen under the 14th amendment, with no mention, in the ruling, of him being natural born, since that was not at issue.
Never said you were "natural born", but since no court has ruled on the subject, it would not quite be true to say you were not. I think you were not, you seem to think so as well. But, it's not an issue, unless you want to run for President or Vice President, and you don't sound anywhere near crazy enough for that.
First, I tried to say its late and I don't want to get into this now. Its obvious you have come here for an argument, and I have wasted to many words and to much time saying not now.
You act as if the rest of the world doesn't have a clue. This subject has been debated here for about one whole year. As you have been around since 2005, I expect that you would have got this out of your system back in 2008.
If you want to know the facts, I encourage you to spend the time to chase the threads already posted on this subject. If you don't care about the facts, and just want to yell, we can handle that too.
Researched yes, but never they were never able to prove he was not born on the Naval base, rather than in Colon, Panama. The two Birth Certificates floating around showing him born in Colon, are likely as fake as Obama's COLB. He and his mother, who you'll recall was on the platform with him on election night, maintain he was born on the base. Home birth, especially of the grandson of the Admiral, would not be unusual in 1936. It would have been just a little over a decade latter, but not in '36 especially in Central America. My mother was born in the late 20s, and she was born at home, on her parents' farm. My father in law was an exception, born the same year as my mother, but in a hospital "in town". But he almost wasn't born at all, had to be delivered by C- section, which made him an only child, even though his mother, bless her soul, wanted a large family. She did get 5 grand kids, and whole passel of great grand kids, some of whom she even knew before the dementia hit, including her #1 great-grandddaughter, my daughter, who also remembers her.
Interesting, I have never seen this in any discussion thus far. The certificate discussed in the Washington Post article was provided by McCain himself if memory serves. I have a hard time with accepting the charge that he provided a forgery.
Rewrite a new thread on this....
Stanley Ann Dunham was named for her father, Stanley Armour Dunham, who had wanted a boy.
This information comes off of legal documents, such as her divorce decree, and theobamafile.com.
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