Posted on 08/08/2009 6:54:17 PM PDT by blueyon
For the end of the week, Im going to show the effects of H.R. 3200s provisions for health care coverage that is placed on employers large and small. These show up in Sections 411 and 412 of the Act. Heres the text via THOMAS. (Please note, I often edit these to eliminate some naming and exception language that is routine. So here, for example, Ill skip all the rules they need to deal with the railroad industry.)
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I read it, then I quickly reported myself to flag@whitehouse.gov
WTF?!!!!!
the effects of H.R. 3200's provisions for health care coverage that is placed on employers large and small
If any of this legislation passes, it will be a heyday for attorneys. It seems to me that even the smallest businesses will be dependent upon a lawyer to interpret the Gordian knot of rules and regulations.
I also worry every time theres a payroll threshold for regulations on business. It results in salaries being held down. If a small business is defined by a payroll of less than $400,000, then they wont allow it to exceed that amount to avoid paying more or suffering under additional regulation.
This bill sure is one huge wrecking ball to jobs, businesses and the economy. (Except for lawyers that is).
“Health Choices Commissioner...”
I think that’s a misspelling. It should read “Health Choices Commissar.”
Ping.
I will be at local townhall meetings, when my congressmen grow enough *** to face us here.
That hasn’t happened yet.
Running scared, running on empty. That is what we Tennessee Volunteers are facing. Getting reelected here is going to be tough for the incumbents.
They know this — and are tucking their tails beneath their legs, like a hound dog beaten twice a day.
Two words for them — Jim Sasser. He was a lifelong congresscritter before we sent him packing in the early 1990s, during the “Contract With America.”
We’ll do it again.
I know a thing or two about healthcare right now, having to deal with my elderly Mom’s healthcare issues.
From the draft House bill:
SEC 2213 Training in Family Medicine, General Internal Medicine, General Pediatrics, Geriatrics, and Physician Assistantship
The Secretary shall establish a primary care training and capacity building program consisting of awarding grants and contracts.
Preference In awarding grants or contracts the Secretary shall give preference to entities that .. train individuals from underrepresented minority groups or disadvantaged backgrounds——IT’S ALSO A WELFARE BILL !
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ATTENTION FELLOW TEXANS:
Governor Rick Perry may invoke the 10th Amendment over Obamas health care bill (Vanity)
7/23/09 | Cowtowney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2299225/posts?q=1&;page=51
Get after Perry, Texans. Burn up his switch board and fax!
Let him know we dont want Obama DeathCare.
Say no to Obamas DeathCare.
Send a message; DONT MESS WITH TEXAS healthcare!
No! NO you dont, you muzzie pos. Youre not denying our seniors deserved health care while insuring millions of illegal aliens and while Demorats are REJECTING Obamacare for themselves and their families!
Join organizations who fight ObamaCare.
This is a good organization:
The Alliance of Texans Against Government Controlled Healthcare:
http://www.notintexas.org/
office (972) 466-2915
fax (972) 466-2965
toll-free (866) 377-1300
From the website:
We are currently contacting Governor Rick Perry by fax and mail!
We have made it easy for you to help. Click here to display the letter and contact information.
http://www.notintexas.org/Letter_rick_perry.htm
Petition to STOP government controlled healthcare in Texas
Read and sign the petition
http://www.notintexas.org/Letter_to_Reps.htm
Print and sign the letter
(feel free to make changes if you wish)
Fax the letter to the fax numbers
Mail a hard copy to the addresses
Call their offices
Dear Governor Perry,
On March 30, 2009 the Texas House of Representatives passed HCR 50 affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment.
You have publicly supported this bill, and stated that attorney generals from all over the union could be getting ready to sue the US Government.
We are asking you to take the lead.
We are asking you to order the Texas Attorney General to publicly begin working on a law suit under Article IV, Ninth, and Tenth Amendment of the Constitution.
We are asking you to protect the citizens of Texas that we will not stand for government controlled healthcare in our state.
Under your leadership we can effectively kill the proposal of this administration and allow Texas to be a state free from socialism and collectivism.
Be the voice of reason in the national debate and allow Texans the ability to solve the problems of our state.
Thank you,
(Signature Date)
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Contacting Rick Perry
Office of the Governor
P.O. Box 12428
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Phone: (512) 463-2000
Fax: (512) 463-1849
Washington Office:
122 C St., NW, Ste. 200
Washington, DC 20001
Phone: (202) 638-3927
Fax: (202) 628-1943
Contact Budget Planning and Policy
Address:1100 San Jacinto
Austin, Texas 78701
Phone: (512) 463-1778
Fax: (512) 463-1975
Gregory S. Davidson
Constituent Communication Division Director and
Executive Clerk to the Governor
Phone: (512) 463-1873
Office of the General Counsel
Department Mailing Address
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Austin, TX 78711
Phone: 512.463.2000
Fax: 512.463.1932
Press Secretary
Allison Castle, Press Secretary
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Phone: (512) 463-1826
Fax: (512) 463-1847
Contact Texas Health Care Policy Council
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Austin, Texas 78711
Phone: (512) 463-1778
Fax: (512) 463-1975
Sign up. Become a member.
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From Texans Against Government Controlled health Care
http://www.notintexas.org/
To all Texas elected officials:
Dont Mess with Texas has been a proud motto in the Lone Star State. Now with Government controlled socialized healthcare appearing inevitable, we say NOT IN TEXAS! We ask our elected officials to cite the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as the reason why Texas rejects and will not accept the U.S. Government takeover of our healthcare system!
The 10th Amendment states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
States rights, in the United States, is political doctrine advocating the strict limitation of the prerogatives of the federal government to those powers explicitly assigned to it in the Constitution of the United States, and reserving to the states all other powers not explicitly forbidden them. The doctrine of states rights has been the cause of bitter controversy at several periods in U.S. history.
The impending death of free market healthcare is an important issue that will again cause bitter controversy.
If the cause of defending our free market healthcare is a worthy cause, we in Texas must stand up and say: NOT IN TEXAS.
We in Texas will not stand idly by and allow the U.S. Federal Government to eliminate our free market healthcare system by incrementally changing and ultimately replacing it with a Government controlled socialized Healthcare system.
NOT IN TEXAS
Where are the Texas politicians?
The Alliance of Texans against Government Controlled Healthcare is insisting upon the immediate action of all Texas Politicians. Tell the U.S. Government: Government controlled healthcare may be adopted in other states, but NOT IN TEXAS.
Tell the U.S. Government that Government Controlled Healthcare will never be allowed in Texas. Texans still believe in individual freedom and individual responsibility.
The saving of our free market healthcare system is one of the most important tasks ever to face Texas.
When are we going to hear Texas politicians saying: The Government Controlled Socialized Healthcare stops at the Texas border!
The Texas citizens are waiting to hear from you. We dont have much time. President Obama wants a healthcare bill out by August 1st.
Tell the news media loud and clear: NOT IN TEXAS
We hope to see and hear your stand in the media in the next days to come.
P.S. Once Texas politicians make their stand, you will see other states standing up for States rights. Let the Lone Star state of Texas stand first.
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From Texans Against Government Controlled Health Care
Facts about the 10th Amendment:
The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. The Tenth Amendment restates the Constitutions principle of Federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states or the people.
Why Texans should fight National Healthcare:
When all of Americas top health insurers and providers met at the White House this week and pledged to save $2 trillion over the next decade in health costs, they were pledging to sabotage our medical care. The blunt truth, which everybody (the politicians and healthcare providers) agreed to keep quiet, is that the only way to reduce these costs is to ration healthcare, thereby destroying our system. http://www.notintexas.org/Front_4.htm
>Cutting Doctors fees will reduce access. Your doctor may not accept the government health plan. Congress is wanting to cut Medicare fees by 21 percent. Cuts in Medicare reimbursements will spill into the government health plan and ultimately limit the number of doctors and hospitals that will accept the government plan.
>Much like the HMOs of the 80s your doctor access will be restricted to the few doctors who will accept the socialized plan.
>Limiting the availability of doctors and hospitals will have many devastating effects. Most threatening are:
>Over crowding waiting rooms
Backlog of medical testing i.e. CAT scans, MRI, PET scans etc...
>Rationing of Health Care
>Reduction of quality college students choosing medicine as a profession.
>With our aging population, quality health care providers needed now more than ever.
>We can pay with our lives. The federal government want us to believe they can mandate away 2 trillion dollars of medical expenses. We have learned from our friends from the north (the Canadians), the best way to reduce cost is to ration care.
>Government bureaucrats will pour over data and decide what the best means of care will be for the largest number of patients.
If medical condition differs from the government guidelines, it will NOT be paid by the government.
Should your doctor(s) decide the government allowed treatment is not for you, your doctors hands will be tied. If you dont have the financial means to pay for your treatment elsewhere, it could cost you your life.
In Canada, colonoscopies are rationed for colon cancer. Canadas colon cancer rate is 25 percent higher than in the U.S. even though Canadas population is smaller.
>We know from history, once a government program of this nature is passed, whether it is a total failure or not, it will NEVER be rescinded.
Solution:
Texans can reject, and refuse to pay for, the federal government health plan. Texas will attract the BEST trained, MOST experienced doctors (and upcoming doctors) in the country. Texas will be the envy of every state in the union.
The truth about government controlled healthcare:
Government healthcare is failing miserably in Massachusetts
If you think a government run healthcare system can work and be more affordable, read this... http://www.notintexas.org/Front_5.htm
Article from the Washington Examiner 1/11/09:
Obamas health policy advisers should take a good look at the smoldering wreckage in the Bay State before trying to impose any such universal coverage on the rest of the nation. Link http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Universal_coverage_First_look_at_the_disaster_in_Massachusetts_011109.html
More interesting reading - Free Market Cure
http://www.freemarketcure.com/
Medicare - What is all the fuss about?
Medicare (and health insurance) is a political football. The aging baby boomers are currently contributing more tax dollars to the Medicare Trust Fund than they ever will again in our lifetime. In 2011, the first baby boomers will become eligible for Medicare, and many of them will retire, no longer contributing to the tax base.
Instead, they will become consumers of the Medicare system and begin to tap into the very funds they contributed to Medicare for more than 40 years. Within a few decades, we will suffer massive deficits caused by Medicare, Medicaid (welfarelong term care) and Social Security.
There is simply not a way to finance the Medicare system long term by raising taxes. Even if taxes were raised by 50 percent of the current rate, there still would not be enough money to fund the Medicare Part A Trust Fund for the long term.
The current Part A trust is expected to pay more than it takes in by 2019, and some are estimating this will begin to occur as early as 2016.
HCR 50 HAS PASSED THE HOUSE 99-36!
Affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the U.S. Constitution, serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates, and providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed.
Take Action! Before it is too late!
Let’s say it like it is. You won’t be able to have a business; much less hire employees.
A real economy killer.
Maybe citizens should pick a public location and just start reading the healthcare bill aloud...taking turns if necessary.
There's a little old lady on the streetcorner preaching the bible every Saturday morning...maybe....lol
Yeah, and it also means they’re going to hire people who couldn’t cut the mustard to get into medical school on their own merit. Since whites and Asians aren’t underrepresented in the higher levels of the medical profession, they’re talking about blacks and Hispanics, the same people who make up the bulk of ACORN and the SEIU.
In other words, if they’re forced to treat you at all, rest assured the doctor treating you will not be top-drawer because s/he had to have am affirmative action leg up to even get in. So, they let all of them in to medical school because the gubmint bribed the universities to do so, they take up the classroom seats, they drop out because they can’t cut it since they, as a group, would already be amply represented in the universe of doctors. So then we have an even greater shortage of doctors than this horror will already create by disincentivizing through controlled pay and heavy regulation people from becoming a doctor in the first place.
Maybe worth reading but like almost all of the crap legislation they propose and pass it is full of cross references that take hours to dig up.
Questions: What about self employed persons, how are they abused by this?
Is there any cap on the 8% or any minimum, 8% for some wages either is an unrealistic pittance or abuse. Someone making $200k would pay $16k and someone making $30k would pay $2.4k? This is unsustainable and just more LIBERAL vodoo economics.
problem is they don’t care about business. they are socialists and want the state to own all businesses so they can send you to work where they want.
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