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'Hero' Greek woman sets fire to drunken Briton's genitals
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 06 Aug 2009 | Paul Anast

Posted on 08/07/2009 5:40:45 AM PDT by Sherman Logan

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To: rawhide

sounds good. so burning, stabbing, and shooting would all be ok when confronted with a persistent drunk person.

just want to understand the rules.

if you have any kids in college, you might want to enlighten them before they go out to a kegger...


61 posted on 08/07/2009 8:23:59 AM PDT by sten
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To: Sherman Logan

For a slightly different take on this story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1204956/Greek-woman-set-drunk-Britons-genitals-flaming-Sambuca-national-heroine.html


62 posted on 08/07/2009 8:24:13 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: sten
If my girls were being forcibly fondled by a drunken man, and he kept coming at them, than yes, I would want them to do whatever it takes, to stop the advances.

Tell me, FRiend, what would you want your daughters to do, if in the same situation?

63 posted on 08/07/2009 8:32:12 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Sherman Logan; Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; Darksheare; pissant; najida; r-q-tek86; blackie; ...

GOODNESS GRACIOUS GREAT BALLS OF FIRE...PING!!!!


64 posted on 08/07/2009 8:36:32 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: rawhide
thanks for that. seems the victim was burned from "from his neck to his belly button" and "has suffered burns in the chest, lower stomach and upper genital area." (i'm not sure but i think the upper genital area means just below the belt line)

either way, it would seem he wasn't exposed at the time of the burning... which would conflict with the woman's story. from the description the injuries seem consistent with a liquid splashed on an open front shirt.

this is the location in question:

didn't any of you learn anything from the duke lacrosse case? the days of women being innocent victims are long gone.

65 posted on 08/07/2009 8:37:09 AM PDT by sten
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Now that’s just NUTS!


66 posted on 08/07/2009 8:37:45 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Owwww, I feel that! LOL!

67 posted on 08/07/2009 8:38:14 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: domenad

Nonsense. He was waving his pecker around in front of the gal. Hopefully she scorched it right off.


68 posted on 08/07/2009 8:41:36 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rawhide
Tell me, FRiend, what would you want your daughters to do, if in the same situation?

let's see... she would be in a PUBLIC, CROWDED bar... loads of people... bouncers... cops in the street.

call me crazy, but maiming someone wouldn't be on the menu. all she would have to do is shout out and the bouncers would be all over the guy.

and from the article you linked, it sounds like the woman approached the guy, doused him, then lit him as he was leaving the bar with his buddies.

sounds like a crazy woman that forgot not to mix tequila with prosac

69 posted on 08/07/2009 8:43:43 AM PDT by sten
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To: sten
And yet you're wrong. You're stating the FACTS of the case incorrectly. It wasn't a case of slapping. That is a red herring and you're making a very specious argument.

Here are the facts as spelled out in the article: He exposed himself to her, then forced her to touch his male member, and then continued to do so when repeated attempts to tell him to stop didn't work.

Does that simply sound "crass" to you? Crass is using cuss words, scratching my butt, or picking my nose in mixed company and in front of the children. If you believe what he did was merely crass, you have a very different definition of the word than me!

It doesn't matter at all that he was drunk. Imagine if one could use the "I was drunk" excuse to get out of the consequences of a crime? Could I kill someone, but get excused if I was drunk? Rape someone? Sexually assault them? Beat them up? At what point does the victim have right to stop such behavior, and use whatever means necessary to do so?

Here in Alabama what he did would get you charged with sexual assault, which can be a precursor to rape. And yes, using up to deadly force to prevent one from getting raped is certainly authorized here legally.

It is not up to you to decide if the next step would be rape, or at some point the attacker will stop. And it's not just me saying so. The Bill of Rights of the US Constitution recognizes self defense as a GOD given right. No government, American or Greek, can take that right from her.

Can they punish her for defending herself? Yes. Should they. I say no.

70 posted on 08/07/2009 8:44:08 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: sten
I'm sure there were plenty of witnesses that saw both people involved, so we will see after all the witnesses are interviewed and the facts come out, what really happened here. But for now, based on the story as presented, I take the side of the woman.
71 posted on 08/07/2009 8:46:09 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Sherman Logan

He got the hots for her?


72 posted on 08/07/2009 8:46:39 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (CITIZENS OF LIBERTY! RISE UP AND DEFEAT THE EVIL BEAST, OBAMUNISM!)
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To: pissant
actually, that doesn't seem to be the case:(link)

his genitals weren't burnt. he was burnt from his neck to his belly button, as if she splashed him while he was wearing a button down shirt... then lit it.

sounds like she didn't like him leaving without her... burned him as a scorned woman might... then claimed he assaulted her to set up the he said/ she said. if what she claimed is true, there should be no shortage of witnesses to him exposing himself. (then again, his private parts would be burned if her story were true)

73 posted on 08/07/2009 8:48:38 AM PDT by sten
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To: Alas Babylon!
read my response here: (link)

i really wish i could edit my posts or at least be able to add names to the 'to' field

74 posted on 08/07/2009 8:51:42 AM PDT by sten
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

“The date was too hot to handle.”
“Hunk a hunk of burning love.”


75 posted on 08/07/2009 8:57:06 AM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: sten

You are simply making crap up to try and justify your opinion.

That is dishonest (and very liberal).

I’m sorry you have such low regard for truth and knowledge that you feel you can demean it by impugning her as a “woman scorned” because it fits your narrative.

Is that you, Barack?


76 posted on 08/07/2009 9:23:09 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
I hope that someone was able to stomp out the flames.

LOL

I only wish I had swallowed that sip of coffee before I read your answer. Now I must go clean my keyboard before it is too late.
77 posted on 08/07/2009 9:30:46 AM PDT by goldfinch
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To: MortMan
RTFM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1204956/Greek-woman-set-drunk-Britons-genitals-flaming-Sambuca-national-heroine.html

78 posted on 08/07/2009 9:31:20 AM PDT by sten
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To: sten

RYOFP

Please identify where in the cited article the word “scorned” was used.

Be honest - you might like the change.


79 posted on 08/07/2009 9:38:13 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: MortMan

from the article:
“Stuart said he was chatting to some guy sitting on a bar stool, and was just walking out when she just ran up to him and did this.”

so she was either scorned or just a whack job. i was being nice assuming she was scorned.

of course, considering this statement:
“Stuart swears blind that he’s never met or seen her,’ he added. ‘He’s not the kind of lad who gets himself in trouble - he’s a kindhearted, generous boy.”

maybe she was some crazy chick. either way, the injuries do not indicate him exposing himself.

lying crazy chick might be closer to reality (scorned is not ruled out)


80 posted on 08/07/2009 9:47:42 AM PDT by sten
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