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To: Bigh4u2
Is the only reason to doubt the Orly 1964 certification photograph the background cloth?

Couldn't this have been photoshopped by this alleged forger?

Isn't it verified that E.F. Lavendar was the Registrar in 1961? So does that not lend validity to the Orly certification.

And the real value of the certification is that it points to the book and page in an official birth registry.

598 posted on 08/07/2009 8:56:37 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Lundy_s Lane II
Is the only reason to doubt the Orly 1964 certification photograph the background cloth?
No. There are multiple reasons specific to the Hoax Pics, including:

Hoax Pic 1, which matches Orlys pic exactly, shows that a coin was made to create the "seal." See ForGod'sSake's great graphic at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2309830/posts?page=548#548

Hoax Pic 1, which matches Orlys pic exactly, is of much higher resolution and detail. You can always resize a photo to make the file larger, but you can't add in details. When you resize a low-resolution photo, you lose detail. Hoax Pic 1 has much greater detail.

Hoax Pic 2 shows the coin with a copy of the document (probably not the same document as Pic 1). As noted above, it is clearly an imprint of a coin.

Hoax Pic 2 & 4 show the "typo" in Maieen name, which is covered up by a stain on Hoax Pic 1 - and Orly's Pic.

I'm sure that there are several more points, but these are the easiest ones to see.

Isn't it verified that E.F. Lavendar was the Registrar in 1961?
If there was actual verification of an E.F. Lavendar as Kenyan registrar at the time, I missed it.What I saw verified was that there were Lavendars in Kenya at the time, and there is a picture of an Eric Lavendar on the web. I saw speculation that that Eric Lavendar may have been the E.F. Lavender.

And the real value of the certification is that it points to the book and page in an official birth registry.
Except that the book and page number matches up generally to the books that were used in Australia. If people have uncovered similar evidence regarding Kenyan registrations, I missed it.
600 posted on 08/07/2009 9:06:08 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: Lundy_s Lane II

Unless Orly’s copy is completely different, then chances are it’s also a fake.

I downloaded the copy from her site when it was first posted and from every indication that I see, it comes pretty close to the ‘punkd’ one.

I looked at post #548 and you can definitely see the similarities in the seal.

I am not totally saying Orly’s copy is fake. But the evidence sure points that way.


604 posted on 08/07/2009 9:24:01 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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