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I don't know whether this is accurate or not. But, in case anyone wants to do something about this issue that would have an impact well beyond birthcertificate, please help me use this issue to discredit the MSM. You don't have to believe in any "birther theories" to use this issue to discredit the MSM. All you have to do is be able to tell the truth and point out that the MSM has not been telling the truth.

One issue I could really use some help with is posted here. If I could get a statement from Hawaii on that issue, I could then get a correction from the NYT and CNN. And, that would both strike back at the anti-birthers and would help improve coverage of other topics. Please spend a few minutes helping me with that.

1 posted on 08/06/2009 11:53:16 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
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The most glaring mistake in the “punked” copy is that the word “Maiden” (just under the stain) looks to be misspelled as “Maieen.”

Zoom in and look: http://www.upload.mn/view/2vu1mtqgb7obp3yym18l.jpg


356 posted on 08/06/2009 4:45:13 PM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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It was fun while it lasted...
399 posted on 08/06/2009 5:12:20 PM PDT by sjm_888
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Just show me the births for 4 Aug., 1961 from all hospitals in Honolulu. That will convince me if BHO's name is on one of the lists.

I am not talking about medical records.

I'm talking about nothing more than the Honolulu Advertiser has already published and is now distributed around the world.

Rather than state vital records (which would have come from the hospitals) the source would be the hospital itself, to wit, Kauikeolani Children's Hospital, I believe is BHO's (latest). birth place.

The point about the newspaper announcement is to argue that the lists of births directly from the hospitals -- with or without BHO -- are NOT medical records. Are all births medical treatments? Why don't the hospitals repeat this little bit of history and augment the Honolulu Advertiser announcement with the addition of their hospital's name.

(Ans: they won't because it would prove BHO a liar IMO.)

406 posted on 08/06/2009 5:22:42 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Still proves nothing, except that it’s easy to forge a copy of anything you want. I refuse the believe in the validity of any document posted in a digital form on the internet.

Until a paper form that can be verified is submitted to a controlling legal authority this issue is unsettled.


419 posted on 08/06/2009 5:54:03 PM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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If this is true then it is obvious that the Far Left are trying to pull a ‘Borat’ on Conservatives.


433 posted on 08/06/2009 6:28:42 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation In All Things)
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Assuming that this is legit, it was always the most likely outcome. The vast majority of FReepers were not simply posting "THIS IS REAL THING!!!" but were doing their best to determine whether the Taitz document was valid or invalid, as they did with the Bomford document. The extent and quality of FReeper research was extraordinary.

So what has this taught us? That FReepers care about the U.S. Constitution, and that a liberal forger does not. FReepers were not PUNK'D, just diligent.

Now, back to concentrating on the long form.

448 posted on 08/06/2009 6:56:20 PM PDT by TChad
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‘Punkin’ the World: Priceless’

451 posted on 08/06/2009 6:57:29 PM PDT by woofie
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Hey, I’m sorry to sound so typical, but I haven’t read the thread, just glanced at the pictures. To me this looks like a fake debunking. The cert pictured in the second picture at WND doesn’t look like the Orly cert. For one thing, the stain or burn is quite different.


458 posted on 08/06/2009 7:05:22 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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From the first Orly Taitz asked the court and others to help her establish if the document was real or not. How’s that translate in to getting punked?


472 posted on 08/06/2009 7:24:52 PM PDT by ethical
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Schmutz font, my ass.


473 posted on 08/06/2009 7:25:10 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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The SIN is that OBOZO is allowed to make a Mockery of OUR AMERICAN CONSTITUTION AND AMERICA! as he hides his Legal Birth Certificate while presenting a Forgery and/or a Worthless State Document and traveling the World Apologizing for Manufactured Lies about OUR AMERICA! and Obviously Not OBOZO’S AMERICA!


490 posted on 08/06/2009 8:01:21 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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The fact is, the nitwit forger has actually helped the cause of those who demand proof that 0bama is Constitutionally eligible to serve as POTUS, i.e., the increasing number of questionable certificates floating around purportedly representing the birth details of Barack Hussein 0bama means that only by releasing the ORIGINAL VAULT COPY that is being held by the State of Hawaii can we know for sure whether or not the person occupying the Oval Office actually has a right to be there.

So to the forger?

*THANKS* pal, you’ve raised the stakes and increased the pressure on The Kenyan Usurper to either prove his bonafides or follow the advice in my tagline.


501 posted on 08/06/2009 8:40:09 PM PDT by mkjessup (Hey Comrade 0bama? No documentation = No eligibility, ok? Now GTF out of OUR White House!!!)
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There is one MAJOR problem with this alleged forgery.

There is something over the word “Maiden” in the Mother section of the form the first image. There is also a stain on the paper above the word. On the second image, the “something” isn’t there, but the stain is. Now that’s no big deal, but the revealed word under the “something” isn’t “Maiden”. It’s “Maieen”. Either the forger added this “something” to the document because of his typo, or he photoshopped it out of the document, and didn’t think about copying in the correct letter, or removing the stain. The right serif of the foot of the letter “i” is also missing.

This is just someone who owned the same rug or quilt and figured he could claim responsibility for the document.


570 posted on 08/07/2009 4:52:50 AM PDT by igotsix (Punker Punked!)
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Folks. Step back and look at the big picture. Maybe or maybe not the Kenya BC is a forgery. That's irrelevant.

Why did the libtards suddenly, all in unison, drop their total disregard for the BC issue, and start pushing the ‘birthers are idiots’ argument IN PUBLIC - everywhere - all at the same time? What scared them out of their holes? What was so important that they did a strategy 180?

Just asking.

580 posted on 08/07/2009 7:25:28 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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Consider for a moment, or pretend that the Kenyan certificate is genuine. What would Obama do?

First he would have someone say he forged it?

585 posted on 08/07/2009 7:50:57 AM PDT by OldEagle
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So, if I create a forged long-form birth certificate for Obama and it is proven false, does that mean that Obama is definitely not a natural-born citizen? No..

And this forgery proves no more than that one would.

All I can say is that Obama is clearly hiding something in his past. I have no idea what it is. But we should find out.


591 posted on 08/07/2009 8:06:35 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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So Obama’s pals admit to forging documents. What does that say about their character?

I wonder when they’ll admit to forging the National Guard memos.


601 posted on 08/07/2009 9:11:13 AM PDT by TBP
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This is ridiculous.

The cloth is different, and the ‘document’ is different. How stupid do they think we are?


602 posted on 08/07/2009 9:12:39 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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Yep, the bedspreads are different and the document’s paper is different in the forged photos. I’m not holding out a lot of hope for this one, but still...let’s hope that what Orly has submitted is not a fake.

Think this will be my last post on the BC thing for a while. I’m in “wait and see” mode now.


614 posted on 08/07/2009 11:11:13 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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The President blew up the WTC.


615 posted on 08/07/2009 11:11:34 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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