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AARP members against Obama on his health care package: Town Hall meeting did not help (with video)
Examiner Washington, D.C. ^ | August 6, 2009 | L. Steven Sieden

Posted on 08/06/2009 9:26:45 AM PDT by La Lydia

Although, President Barack Obama participated in an AARP Town Hall to promote his health care reform, his appearance was not a success among members of the powerful AARP. Comments posted by AARP members indicate they are far from assured by Obama or his message. Most comments show a continued distrust of Obama's assurances that Medicare will be protected and that health care will be better.

Baby boomers who now hold a great deal of power in the AARP and among voters, just don't want their entitlements smaller. Never mind, that they are the only group of Americans who have what Obama (and "we the people") really wants – universal health care for all Americans. Here is a typical AARP comment,

"I don't care if it is from the democrats or the republicans, the government cannot give us better health care. And more importantly, as soon as we look to government to take care of use we have made a tacit agreement to give the government control over all aspects of our lives. It is like making a deal with the Devil."

The majority of the comments oppose health care reform in the form that Obama has attempted to use, driving down costs by making health care delivery more efficient and giving Americans the option of choosing between private insurers and a government-run plan. The elderly have the same universal health care that is the birthright of people in every developed nation except the United States, and they are doing all that they can to protect their entitlement. Even if it means working to keep that same benefit from other Americans...

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; aarp; bho44; bhohealthcare; democrats; greedygeezers; healthcare; medicare; obama; obamacare; obamatownhalls; plantationhealthcare; socialism; socializedmedicine; townhalls
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To: Pining_4_TX

The “Not that s**t again” picture came immediately to mind when I found this!


21 posted on 08/06/2009 10:23:48 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Getting in the face of one of the country’s most potent voting blocks and calling them “selfish”.....why, yes, I see now why this man is regarded as the most Brilliant Politician of All Time....


22 posted on 08/06/2009 10:23:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: La Lydia

Does anyone know why the AARP as an organization is for the ObamaCare plan? It clearly is not good for seniors - I just don’t get it.


23 posted on 08/06/2009 10:44:55 AM PDT by unique
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To: geo40xyz

This AARP member says: FUBO!!!!!
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Why.....are.....you....a...member? Cancel, call them and tell them why. They have been in bed with the liberals for years.


24 posted on 08/06/2009 10:46:13 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: unique
Does anyone know why the AARP as an organization is for the ObamaCare plan? It clearly is not good for seniors - I just don’t get it.

Dementia - They've been told for so long that libs pissing on their legs is actually rain , they believe it to be true.

25 posted on 08/06/2009 10:46:48 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: N. Theknow

That too, but there seems to be such a clear disconnect between tons of members and the management of AARP. Clearly end of life ‘care’ will be rationed and access with be delayed if this monster gets a green light.


26 posted on 08/06/2009 10:57:05 AM PDT by unique
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To: mojitojoe

Because IBM dropped her and she has Kidney Cancer and AARP covers the 20% Medicare does not cover for only $155 per month......................

They will lose over a 100K this year:-()


27 posted on 08/06/2009 10:57:17 AM PDT by geo40xyz (BE PREPARED: Geo The Engineer so smart, he doesn't need a TelePrompter to speak. Unlike the AH:-))
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To: La Lydia
Doesn't AARP allow members as young as 50 now? If it were limited to 65+ there is no way they would be able to be so pro-Obama...

Gallup approval ratings for Obama...

Age....Approve
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18-29.....64%
30-49.....53%
50-64.....54%
65+........48%

28 posted on 08/06/2009 10:57:23 AM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: loveliberty2
Bravo!!! Excellent!!!

I recommend an organization called The Foundation for American Christian Education for much needed instruction on how we can begin again to educate our children in liberty, self government, and the morals and ideas of the founding fathers:

http://www.face.net/203287.ihtml

I have just rediscovered this organization (my father-in-law taught at a Principle Approach school in the early 1980s) and am committed to first educating myself, and then applying what I learn to enrich my children's education. We MUST get back to educating our children properly in morals and Biblical logic and reasoning, or each generation will continue to be at risk of losing its liberty.

This organization provides many books and materials for both adult and children's education in these topics. I personally believe every Christian church in America should use some of its funds to provide a library of such books and offer free classes to train parents in how to train their children in these principles and precepts. Another wonderful organization is the National Center for Constitutional Studies http://www.nccs.net/, which publishes The 5000 Year Leap and other great materials.


The History of the Foundation for American Christian Education

When the United States was founded, she stood on the shoulders of centuries of devoted, brave yet ordinary men and women who loved the God of the Bible and understood how to nurture one of His greatest conditional blessings to mankind, liberty. The peace, security, prosperity, integrity, and freedom that has longtime been the hallmark of the United States are all results of her distinctively Christian roots.

This simple yet profound truth was rediscovered by Verna Marie Hall. During the 1930’s, Miss Hall had been working in Roosevelt’s WPA (Works Progress Administration) distributing benefits in San Francisco: initially a great believer in government entitlements, she witnessed the effect that these programs had on those who received them. The longer an individual received government assistance, the more he adopted a subservient, helpless mindset. Once the transformation was complete, he was unlikely to return to productive independence—Miss Hall realized that the very programs developed to aid the poor were, in fact, enslaving them.

Miss Hall began to research America’s history, and she saw a great chasm between the encroaching socialism of her day and the staunch independence and self-government of America’s early Christian settlers. She found America’s Christian history documented in hundreds of founding charters and state papers, in the personal writings of the early settlers and our founding fathers; she understood that the distinctive American Christian character, the foundation of our liberty and identity as a people, was being threatened. Miss Hall undertook the great charge to remind America of her Christian history in order to motivate Americans to shore up the foundations of liberty, to restore Christian character in the individual. By the 1950’s, Miss Hall was sharing her research in Christian History Study Groups in San Francisco attended by hundreds of ordinary, liberty-loving citizens. She compiled a book of primary sources, entitled The Christian History of the Constitution of the United States, Vol. I: Christian Self-Government, that documented the history of self-government, its relationship to liberty, and its essential role in the crafting of the United States Constitution. She dedicated her book in the following manner:

This volume and those to follow are dedicated to
the Christian principle upon which this nation is founded,
and to each American of this and succeeding generations,
that he may remember his Christian heritage and live so as to
raise the standard of his Pilgrim and Puritan fathers into its
larger and fuller expression of individual liberty.

This book, first published in 1960, opened the eyes of many Americans.

One such American was Rosalie June Slater, a teacher who had come to her own understanding of the value of Christian self-government studying the contrasting educational system of the USSR. Miss Slater, passionately convicted that the key to preserving America’s future liberty lay in education, wrote a curriculum for teaching Miss Hall’s book. In her own words, “A nation which is humble enough to begin with its children in the constructing of its foundations for liberty may once again have the opportunity to lead nations to Christ.” Together, Miss Hall and Miss Slater established the Foundation for American Christian Education in 1965 to form Christian character in children and published Teaching and Learning: The Principle Approach®.

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29 posted on 08/06/2009 11:40:44 AM PDT by boxlunch
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To: SueRae

Is there such a thing as a conservative AARP type organization?

I hear conservatives are organized now. Maybe Glenn Beck can organize us conservative old folks.


30 posted on 08/06/2009 12:07:47 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: La Lydia

Has anyone seen the Dallas AARP “listening session” on healthcare?? They aren’t listening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoMNDdQ1_h0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eredstate%2Ecom%2Fmoe%5Flane%2F2009%2F08%2F06%2Fbehold%2Dthose%2Dscary%2Dscary%2Dswastika%2Dbearing%2Dastroturfers%2F&feature=player_embedded


31 posted on 08/06/2009 12:10:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: loveliberty2; Homer_J_Simpson

Its the same with history. The idea that the Catholic Church was in league with Hitler is just so wrong its crazy, there were article after article in the media in the late 30’s about the Nazi attacks on the Catholic Church.


32 posted on 08/06/2009 12:15:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: SueRae

I started getting membership applications from AARP when I was only 28 years old! (This was years ago).

I had a subscription at the time to “The Wall Street Journal.” Perhaps AARP bought their mailing list, and assumed, mistakenly, that only senior citizens subscribed to the Journal?

I want nothing to do with AARP either. Just another group of crazy lefties.


33 posted on 08/06/2009 12:17:46 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If Randy Cunningham is in prison for corruption, then why isn't Diane Feinstein locked up as well?)
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To: La Lydia

Democrat Geezers always bought the lies that the Pubbies were going to take all their goodies away......KARMA!


34 posted on 08/06/2009 12:22:34 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I’m a Boomer and almost ready to retire. But I have been saving and investing for retirement since my 20s.


35 posted on 08/06/2009 12:31:06 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: La Lydia
Baby boomers ... just don't want their entitlements smaller. Never mind, that they are the only group of Americans who have what Obama (and "we the people") really wants – universal health care for all Americans.
L. Steven Sieden is on drugs. Medicare parts A and B isn't "universal health care"
  1. Each month you still have to pay for it.
  2. Medicare doesn't cover 'everything'.
  3. No dental, no vision (Glasses or Contacts)
  4. There's an annual deductible you have to meet.
  5. They don't pay for 'it all'.
  6. You get a Bill from the Doctor for 'an office visit' - 100% of what he charges.
  7. For other things you still have to pay some of the Dr's bill.
  8. Same with Lab Tests. If it's the 'wrong code', YOU PAY 100%.
  9. And for some procedures they only pay 75%, while a private insurance co. would pay 80%.
And for part D, you have to pay a premium each month for that too - to whichever Insurance Co you sign with. The so-called 'free drugs' aren't 'Free'.
  1. For a Tier 3 drug, it's MORE expensive through 'the plan', than if you just paid retail.
  2. Some Tier 2 drugs are the same - higher than retail.
  3. And for a drug category like Valium is in, they pay ZERO, not covered, period.
  4. Thanks to Wal-Mart, with common Tier 1 drugs, like for BP, you don't even USE your part D insurance. They charge YOU $4.00 and that's that. They don't run it through Medicare.
So Medicare 'ain't' universal coverage like the monbats want or this Sieden guy says. They want to pay z-e-r-o and that ain't Medicare.
36 posted on 08/06/2009 2:17:36 PM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: All
The AARP organization is a tax-exempt group which collects federal funds, about $86 million annually, from direct grants for such programs as tax counseling for the elderly to providing jobs for seniors under the "Senior Environmental Employment Program." Simpson rightfully raised the question over the use of a non-profit status for a group which makes millions selling its members medicine, insurance, and other products.

An alternate to AARP is the 60 Plus Association. They stand for free enterprise, less government and less taxes for seniors and neither takes nor seeks federal grants.

Link to 60 Plus Org

37 posted on 08/06/2009 2:26:30 PM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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