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Gog, Magog And The Iraq Invasion
The Atlantic ^ | 8/6/09 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 08/06/2009 8:53:45 AM PDT by steve-b

It is in many ways the weirdest shard of reporting from those years, and its testimony is from no less than the former president of France:

The president of the United States, in a top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God. Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their "common faith" (Christianity) and told him: "Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East…. The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled…. This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."
Is this true?...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; France; Iraq; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agog; andrewsullivan; apocalypse; babylon; bds; bush; bushandgod; chirac; coalitionofwilling; desertstorm; france; georgewbush; gog; gogandmagog; gulfwar; iraq; jacqueschirac; magog; prophecy; theatlantic; waronterror
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To: steve-b
'This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins.'

It would bot surprise me in the least that someone like President Bush would have said something like that.

The Family and other branches of the NWO have been using Gov't and Religion for years. Dominionist would love to use Gov't to bring forth prophesies and the 'New Age'.

21 posted on 08/06/2009 9:35:13 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: steve-b

If it was a top secret phone call, how would any of us know if it was true or not? If anyone did, and published it, that would be a major security compromise.


22 posted on 08/06/2009 9:37:09 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: steve-b

Chirac spent years trying to tear down W. Bush and the United States. But he proved woefully incompetent in doing so. At times he even seemed desperate to “replace” the US as a superpower with some other, *any* other arrangement.

He appealed to Russia, then created the “Year of China” in France, hoping for an allegiance that would “counterbalance” the US, and hopefully elevate France back to being a world power.

Likely he was behind French support to Saddam Hussein, selling him weapons to use against the US military. And he certainly was conducive to bribes from Saddam, payoffs in the oil for food scandal.

Chirac also proposed several “international” taxes, was a strong proponent of the Man Made Global Warming hoax, called for a one world government, etc., etc.

He was an ugly, nasty little toad.


23 posted on 08/06/2009 9:38:05 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: steve-b; Servant of the Cross; roses of sharon; johncocktoasten; McGruff
steve-b, Andrew Sullivan and The Atlantic...
How could I NOT take this seriously?!

Steve-bARF Alert!!!

24 posted on 08/06/2009 9:39:19 AM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: steve-b

Never click on a link to read the original version of a Sullivan item, because if you do so you’ll be driving up Sullivan’s traffic count — making his advertising rates correspondingly higher.


25 posted on 08/06/2009 9:42:00 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: astyanax

Like flypaper, the trolls flock to the bait, BDSers, Saddam & Sons defense team, bigots, they are all here.


26 posted on 08/06/2009 9:45:13 AM PDT by roses of sharon (It is not actual suffering but a taste of better things which excites people to revolt: Hoffer)
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To: Hawthorn

Perhaps it is Sullivan who posted this thread.


27 posted on 08/06/2009 9:46:44 AM PDT by roses of sharon (It is not actual suffering but a taste of better things which excites people to revolt: Hoffer)
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To: steve-b
The prophecy being referenced is Ezekiel chapter 38.

but it has NOTHING to do with France or the United States.

Gog and Magog is actually a reference to Russia:

Eze 38:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

Russia is not alone though.... other nations are also mentioned:

Eze 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: [and] many people with thee.

Persia is a reference to Iran... and this great alliance masses forces to invade Israel from the north:

Eze 38:15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

That is when this massive invasion force gets "wiped out", and all the nations will know that it was God's wrath:

Eze 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that [are] with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. Eze 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I [am] the LORD.
28 posted on 08/06/2009 9:48:05 AM PDT by Safrguns
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There is no evidence that GW Bush believes that the Land Of Israel is anything special to his Christian faith.

In fact, when Bush visited Israel, in January 2008, the Sanhedrin, the Temple and the New Jewish Congress gave him the "Bush Scroll", which called President Bush the Chief Prince of Gog and Magog.

http://www.templeinstitute.org/megillat-bush.htm

"Esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1), leader of the west!"

..."The Land of Israel was bequeathed to the nation of Israel by the Creator of the world. Neither could I, as a son of my faith, nor the Muslims according to their faith, ever take away even the slightest grain from the Eternal's gift, which He gave to His people Israel, the eternal people. Thus I call upon all the nations to save themselves from certain doom, to return and recognize That this land is the exclusive rightful inheritance of the people of Israel, as is written in the Torah of Israel, which constitutes the very foundation of our faith, as well as that of Islam; and is the basis for the decisions of the community of nations. He who denies this truth endangers all life on earth...."

So...I would assume that many in Israel agree with you.

29 posted on 08/06/2009 10:01:15 AM PDT by pby
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To: steve-b

Hey careful now. Kudzu is an honorable crop in GEorgia these days. That and red clay


30 posted on 08/06/2009 10:03:14 AM PDT by the long march
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To: steve-b

YEAH, THE FIRST CALL I’M GONNA MAKE FOR HELP IN A FIGHT IS TO FRANCE.................


31 posted on 08/06/2009 10:03:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (I am totally against spooning............it eventually leads to forking................)
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To: BGHater

And could you be any more conspiratorial? This group was started in response to the 30s growth of communism and socalism in the US. The messages were nearly all pro US and anti communist. As much as folks want to have a new world order boogie man this ain’t it. Read Quigley if you want to see who the real bad guys are


32 posted on 08/06/2009 10:09:13 AM PDT by the long march
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To: the long march
Thg NWO is made up of many branches. If you have read about the Family and their ilk, then you wouldn't be so kind.
33 posted on 08/06/2009 10:12:13 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: steve-b
Is this true?...

No, I was misquoted. I told Mr. Chirac, "Let's not go in blind, like Mr. Magoo."

34 posted on 08/06/2009 10:12:14 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: the long march

The only question he would have asked the French is How many white flags can you supply.


35 posted on 08/06/2009 10:14:16 AM PDT by crazyotto
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To: BGHater

Be sure and look at every shadpw very closely. In fact I would use double and triple proxies in order to do any WEB work. Be sure and use only cash. Oh and for good measure Alex Jones has a new video out that you will no doubt enjoy


36 posted on 08/06/2009 10:14:20 AM PDT by the long march
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To: crazyotto

And of course would have to say as many as the Chinese can manufacture ( as would we)


37 posted on 08/06/2009 10:26:31 AM PDT by the long march
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To: F15Eagle
It was a surprising conclusion...almost shocking, given that the Sanhedrin and the Temple was involved.

Some have thought that they ascribed "Chief Prince" to Bush because he, and his admin., supported some form of giving Israel's land to Israel's enemy, which is an attack against Israel. An attack which is akin to the attack carried out by the Chief Prince of Ezekiel 38:1.

39 posted on 08/06/2009 11:25:31 AM PDT by pby
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