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Rowdy protesters overrun health care meetings
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 8/6/9 | Joe Garofoli

Posted on 08/06/2009 7:42:23 AM PDT by SmithL

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sent her chamber home for the summer recess with a list of talking points to respond to constituents' questions about pending health care legislation.

But those traditionally sleepy town hall meetings have become rowdy shout-fests across the nation, including Northern California, with opponents hanging members in effigy and mocking them with Nazi and devil imagery in an effort to derail discussions of health care.

They're organized in part by conservative think tanks like FreedomWorks, which offers tips on how to disrupt a meeting ("Watch for an opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep's statements early," says one) and helped in some cases by anti-tax "Tea Party" sympathizers.

More than 500 people packed a Napa town hall hosted this week by Rep. Mike Thompson, D-St. Helena, some shouting down panelists by yelling "This is America!" and "What's wrong with profit?"

Three Aug. 15 East Bay town halls scheduled by Rep. Pete Stark, D-Fremont, one of the health care legislation co-authors, are the targets of one Tea Party group calling for a "counterprotest."

A spokesman for Rep. Brad Miller, D-N.C., said this week he wouldn't be holding any town halls after his office received a death threat from a caller who said Miller "could lose his life over this."

The Democratic National Committee fought back Wednesday with an online ad calling the protesters "mobs" embittered by Republican losses last fall. A Republican National Committee spokesman said Democrats "have reduced the concerns and opinions of millions of Americans to 'manufactured' and have labeled them as 'angry extremists.' "

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bama; allmyrowdyfriends; dnctalkingpoints; obamacare; pravdamedia; socializedmedicine; townhall; townhallmeetings; townhalls; yellowjournalism; zogbyism
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All my rowdy friends are coming over tonight!
1 posted on 08/06/2009 7:42:23 AM PDT by SmithL
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Nancy Pelosi is deeply disturbed!

2 posted on 08/06/2009 7:43:15 AM PDT by SmithL (The Golden State demands all of your gold)
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To: SmithL

I thought we were angry, inbred, Brooks Bros. wearing Astroturf rent-a-mobs?

How did we get downgraded to merely “rowdy”?


3 posted on 08/06/2009 7:44:54 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away..............)
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To: SmithL

Washington best realize that people are scared and when they get over being scared, they will get mad. After getting mad they will take their country back, one way or another. If they aren’t careful, it could get real ugly.


4 posted on 08/06/2009 7:45:10 AM PDT by RC2
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To: SmithL

Kathy Castor. A wild eyed Democrat Socialist from Tampa has cancelled her town hall. She is however attending a Black Activist meeting in YBOR CITY tonite at 6pm. Tis is a run down area where whites are afraid to go. She will be protected from her capitalist constituants by Acorn thugs. Obviously the local media will be there for propaganda photo ops.


5 posted on 08/06/2009 7:46:04 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: SmithL

She’ll need to eat the toad, whole to get rid of those new wrinkles.


6 posted on 08/06/2009 7:46:22 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away..............)
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To: SmithL

Obama’s Healthcare Prescription

Written by Steven J. DuBord

Thursday, 06 August 2009 04:00

HealthCarePresident Barack Obama has a prescription to fix what ails America’s current healthcare system. He presented his essential ideas during ABC’s Prescription for America TV special on June 24.

When he was asked why government would need to get involved in healthcare reform when places in the private sector like the Mayo Clinic are already providing quality, affordable medical care, his answer tipped his hand.

“Unfortunately government, whether you like it or not, is going to already be involved,” the president declared. “We pay for Medicare, we pay for Medicaid. There are a whole host of rules, both at the state and federal level, governing how health care is administered.” Obama went on to say that he thinks serious healthcare reform will “figure out how do we take that involvement not to completely replace what we have but to build on what works and stop doing what doesn’t work.”

Portraying Government as the Answer
Therein President Obama revealed his core belief about the solution to America’s healthcare problems: he believes that government’s current involvement in our healthcare system is good, so more government involvement would only make things better. How so, we might ask? Are the Medicare and Medicaid programs good examples of what works? How about the medical care provided to veterans? How about government involvement in other sectors of the economy such as delivering the mail? Has government really demonstrated that it can do a better job than the private sector at providing healthcare or anything else?

Obama himself said during the Prescription for America special that “Medicare and Medicaid are the single biggest drivers of the federal deficit and the federal debt — by a huge margin. And at the pace at which they’re going up … Medicare and Medicaid are going to be broke and … will consume all of the federal budget.” According to the president, Medicare and Medicaid may win the competition with Social Security in the race to insolvency. So much for government intervention being part of what works.

Indeed, President Obama’s plan to reform healthcare in America deserves to be put in one of those revealing hospital gowns and fully examined before Congress tries to fill his prescription. Does his push for bigger government really provide the answers he claims?

President’s Prescription Deciphered
President Obama has repeated the same basic sound bites whenever he has discussed healthcare reform. He used just about all of them during his July 15 remarks in the Rose Garden while surrounded by members of the American Nurses Association. References to this speech, a July 1 town hall meeting in Annandale, Virginia, and the Prescription for America special encapsulate what Obama says he wants in healthcare reform legislation. But if the president does get the legislation he wants, would it deliver what he’s promising?

Long article but worth reading.

Link:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/1435


7 posted on 08/06/2009 7:47:38 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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Brad Miller, D-N.C., said this week he wouldn't be holding any town halls after his office received a death threat

Man up, Brad....Man up.

8 posted on 08/06/2009 7:47:57 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Impeach now....not next month... now)
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To: SmithL

Is Nancy Pelosi related to the Runaway Bride from a few years ago???


9 posted on 08/06/2009 7:48:07 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America.)
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To: SmithL

Listen, and understand.

Hussein of Mombasa is out there. He can’t be bargained with. He can’t be reasoned with. He doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until we are dead.


10 posted on 08/06/2009 7:48:13 AM PDT by roses of sharon (It is not actual suffering but a taste of better things which excites people to revolt: Hoffer)
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To: SmithL; 2ndDivisionVet; freekitty; unkus; Piquaboy; flat; dynachrome; MestaMachine; romanesq; ...

Zero, Pelosi, Reid, Congress, and the Administration’s response to the American people that oppose DeathCare proves that this bill has nothing to do with our health care. It’s about their seizing power over the American people. None of these people care about your health. Their tactics prove their intentions! Their arrogance and their use of Nazi-like tactics show they want to subjugate the American people, IMO.


11 posted on 08/06/2009 7:49:51 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SmithL
Like this?


12 posted on 08/06/2009 7:50:34 AM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: SmithL
Technology may have outstripped government-controlled media and government-school propaganda, allowing America's ordinary citizens--"We, the People"--using common sense and technology, to figure out that their freedom and liberty are threatened. That's what the so-called Tea Parties are demonstrating. By doing so, those who wish to enslave us through accumulating all power in Washington are meeting strong and unexpected resistance to their massive power grab. This is what the Founders intended when they structured a government (Constitution) for a free people. It required a vigilant and informed electorate.

The following essay, reprinted with permission, is from a 1987 book entitled, "Our Ageless Constitution."

An Enlightened, Committed People Who Understand The Principles Of Our Constitution

- The Most Effective Means Of Preserving Liberty

"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant - they have been cheated; asleep - they have been surprised; divided - the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ...the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it.... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." James Madison

America's Constitution is the means by which knowledgeable and free people, capable of self-government, can bind and control their elected representatives in government. In order to remain free, the Founders said, the people themselves must clearly understand the ideas and principles upon which their Constitu­tional government is based. Through such understanding, they will be able to prevent those in power from eroding their Constitutional protections.

The Founders established schools and seminaries for the distinct purpose of instilling in youth the lessons of history and the ideas of liberty. And, in their day, they were successful. Tocqueville, eminent French jurist, traveled America and in his 1830's work, DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA, wrote:

".every citizen ... is taught . the doctrines and the evidences of his religion, the history of his country, and the leading features of its Constitution ... it is extremely rare to find a man imperfectly acquainted with all these things, and a person wholly ignorant of them is a sort of phenomenon."

On the frontier, he noted that "...no sort of comparison can be drawn between the pioneer and the dwelling that shelters him.... He wears the dress and speaks the language of the cities; he is acquainted with the past, curious about the future, and ready for argument about the present.... I do not think that so much intellectual activity exists in the most enlightened and populous districts of France' " He continued, "It cannot be doubted that in the United States the instruction of the people powerfully contri­butes to the support of the democratic republic; and such must always be the case...where the instruction which enlightens the understanding is not separated from the moral education.."

Possessing a clear understanding of the failure of previous civilizations to achieve and sustain freedom for individuals, our forefathers discovered some timeless truths about human nature, the struggle for individual liberty, the human tendency toward abuse of power, and the means for curbing that tendency through Constitutional self-government. Jefferson's Bill For The More General Diffusion Of Knowledge For Virginia declared:

"...experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government), those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny; and it is believed that the most effectual means of preventing this would be, to illuminate...the minds of the people...to give them knowledge of those facts, which history exhibiteth. History, by apprizing them of the past, will enable them to judge of the future...it will qualify them judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views.."

Education was not perceived by the Founders to be a mere process for teaching basic skills. It was much, much more. Educa­tion included the very process by which the people of America would understand and be able to preserve their liberty and secure their Creator-endowed rights. Understanding the nature and origin of their rights and the means of preserving them, the people would be capable of self government, for they would recognize any threats to liberty and "nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud." (Adams)

 


13 posted on 08/06/2009 7:50:58 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: screaminsunshine
She is however attending a Black Activist meeting in YBOR CITY tonite at 6pm. Tis is a run down area where whites are afraid to go.

I strongly recommend that a large contingent of white people 'cowboy up' and attend the meeting. Keep a couple of guards out by the vehicles. Helps if the guards are CCW carriers. Get in her face - don't let her hide in the 'hood.

14 posted on 08/06/2009 7:53:24 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1938 all over again - the democrats are the new NAZIs and conservatives are the new Jews.)
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To: SmithL
...think tanks like FreedomWorks, which offers tips on how to disrupt a meeting ("Watch for an opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep's statements early," says one) ...

Similar to the disruptive tactics Saul Alinsky taught the Obamessiah when he was a "community organizer", eh?

These worthless, lib-tard, Obama-lap-dog, pieces of human crap should be thankful that the anti-Obamacare folks are refraining from following in the footsteps of the president's OTHER favorite "organizer", one Mr. Bill Ayers...

15 posted on 08/06/2009 7:55:33 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: McGruff

Another (CodePink-O) example of double standards...


16 posted on 08/06/2009 7:55:51 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: screaminsunshine

Ybor City is dangerous? I go there at night every time I visit my elderly aunt in Tampa to eat old-style Cuban food. We eat at the Columbia Restaurant. There are some little shops to look around in. I have never felt threatened. When did the black activists take over Ybor?


17 posted on 08/06/2009 7:56:29 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: SmithL

I’d make a “Deer in the Headlights” comment but she always looks that way.


18 posted on 08/06/2009 7:57:23 AM PDT by Zathras
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That's just simple, effective, grass-roots "organizing", there.

It's people who use WORDS who are the REAL threat!

/s

19 posted on 08/06/2009 7:58:09 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: La Lydia

It is an off street area. I would not suggest wandering around there at night. I was told by police not to go there after dark. My car was broken into when I parked three blocks away from the 7th ave. district. I also was accosted by a black guy who claimed to have a gun.


20 posted on 08/06/2009 8:00:28 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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