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Birth Certificate Matters
Newsmax ^ | 08/06/2009 | Christopher Ruddy

Posted on 08/06/2009 6:44:25 AM PDT by Kansas58

Where was Barack Obama born?

It’s a fair question.

But we still don’t know the answer because Obama won’t tell us, because he remains the most mysterious man ever to sit in the Oval Office.

This week I appeared on Bill O’Reilly’s No. 1 rated “The O’Reilly Factor” to discuss the controversy over Obama’s birth certificate, along with syndicated radio host Mike Gallagher. [See the video of my appearance — Click Here Now.]

Let me make clear that I believe Obama was born somewhere in the state of Hawaii. Days after his birth, a small legal notice was printed in the local newspaper announcing his birth.

And the head of Hawaii's Health Department has stated that he reviewed pertinent documents and that Obama was indeed born in that state.

So, those who believe Obama was born outside the United States, such as in Kenya, are simply out to lunch.

But the real story here is about Obama’s failure to release his birth certificate

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To: Don Corleone

I think this is becoming a problem with Democatic administrations

Early in the Clinton adminitration I asked for documents detailing where the presidential penis had been . I still dont have an answer


41 posted on 08/06/2009 9:05:42 AM PDT by woofie
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To: wastoute

I still say that the founders MUST have meant for the president to have TWO parents who were American citizens. It just doesn’t make sense otherwise. The only possible reason for the requirment of “natural born” citizen rather than just citizen is to avoid the possibility of electing a chief executive and commander-in-chief who might owe allegiance to another nation. With this in mind what good would it be if the father can be a non-citizen? This leaves open the possibility of an American president fathered by someone such as Adolf Hitler. It just doesn’t make sense to think they DIDN’T have an understanding that natural born meant both parents had to be citizens.

If the constitution were written to satisfy present day politicians it would be ten thousand pages long because every word would have to include a definition. The current carelessness in use of language is one of the major reasons we find ourselves in the situation we face now. I offer as evidence the fact that huge numbers of Americans behave as if the word “change” only refers to positive change. Our eleven year old grandson just last week informed my wife and me that,”Obama lied, he said he would change things and all he has done is make things worse”. I had to explain to him that while I agree on the lying part, obama certainly has changed things, making things worse definitely qualifies as change. Don’t tell me he is just a kid, I saw a poll result the other day saying only fifty one percent of Americans stil believe Obama will bring “real change” to government.


42 posted on 08/06/2009 9:10:06 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: Kansas58
My best guess is that he probably obtained a foreign passport, at one time, and claimed to be something other than an American, when he applied to one or more colleges or universities.

There are probably a number of other anomalies in his background, but these would be real eye-openers for many.

43 posted on 08/06/2009 9:18:39 AM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: Jim Noble
I don't doubt you, but I do think that getting him out on a technicality (or, to be more precise, a Court-provided, non-legislative definition of NBC) a) is impossible because of the political nature of the question, b) would expand further the Judicial Power, making it even more superior to the Legislative than it now is, and c) would never, never be accepted by such a large fraction of the People (perhaps even a majority) as to render any victory Pyrrhic.

Personally, I am not trying to get him out on a "technicality." This has to do with the Constitution and the Rule of Law, the very foundation of our Republic. Obama has failed to provide the primary documents to prove conclusively that he is eligible to be President, i.e., natural born. I believe that this issue needs to be resolved as our foreign born population continues to increase dramatically from its current 40 million and with 400,000 "anchor babies" being born annually.

Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

The Supreme Court has a duty to defend and protect the Constitution. Bringing this issue before them would be useful and appropriate.

If he was born in Hawaii, as Fukino's recent assertion states clearly, he cannot and will not be displaced by legal prestidigitation

Again, I don't view this as "legal prestidigitation," or an attempt to remove him on a technicality, but rather compliance with our Constitution. Interestingly, the senate felt compelled to pass a resolution [Obama was one of the sponsors] that John McCain was eligible to run for the Presidency. McCain did provide a copy of his real birth certificate, not a secondary document.

The question you should be asking along with anyone who claims to be a journalist, is why doesn't Obama release the document and put an end to this speculation? As is often the case, the cover-up is worse than the crime.

Did you read the McCarthy article I linked to you?

44 posted on 08/06/2009 9:19:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
The question you should be asking ... is why doesn't Obama release the document and put an end to this speculation?

Yes, I'm very curious about that.

I'm just not sure how best to serve my curiosity, given the quite complex nature of the problem. Many posters here are very, very sure that there's a simple way forward, but not me.

45 posted on 08/06/2009 9:26:19 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: wastoute

There’s one other tiny piece of evidence — smoke, if you will — indicating the possibility of a fire.

A young attorney at a Chicago firm associated with Obama wrote a law review article — out of the blue — saying that the natural birth requirement was not just outdated but the stupidest provision. The article was heavily resourced and dated in about 2005, the year after BO won his Senate seat, and after he was anointed by George Soros as the Democrats’ great black hope. I glanced at the article and it mentioned many American politicians who are denied the Presidency because of their natural birth status — the Governator, Jennifer Granholm of Michigan, a couple others — but curiously didn’t mention Obama.

Coincidence? I think not. But I expect that most people said “Shhh” afterward so as to not raise any more questions.

The attorney’s name was Sarah Herlihy and I you can find the article online.

Oh — just googled and found a WND link:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=82680


46 posted on 08/06/2009 9:35:33 AM PDT by tom h
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To: Kansas58
If the Hawaiian officials KNOWS that it is counterfeit BC or shows Kenya, or any other country besides America, wouldn't the people hiding whatever 0 is hiding, wouldn't they be complicit in some kind of possible (or probable) criminal activity? Can Birth C be approached that way - smoke the rats out by stating they may be complicit in the crime of a president who is not a legal president or are are possibly facing accessories after the fact charges.

If a crime has been committed - I'm thinking an illegal president - wouldn't that bash 0's right to privacy if papers are released with a WARRANT to see if a crime has been committed, especially if a possible crime has been committed. Maybe the little people could be granted immunity or a waiver for being the holders of BC's papers that are hidden and they have been holding (accessories after the fact again) Especially if they provide information leading up to the legal or illegal activity.

I'm all about smokin' the little and complicit people in order to work up to the biggies! I watch a lot of CSI and Law and Order...
47 posted on 08/06/2009 9:38:09 AM PDT by hummingbird (A billion here, a billion there. Pretty soon it all adds up. (inspired by some quote))
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To: RipSawyer

Kids have renew theirs every year. They must show them all the paperwork just like when they first got it and bring along a parent.


48 posted on 08/06/2009 9:53:15 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Kansas58
When I asked Bill O’Reilly where in Honolulu Obama was born, he replied: “Chris, if I wanted to know I’d find out tomorrow . . .”

Good luck, Bill. The Obama White House is the most secretive ever.

BOR is such an ass. This is a good editorial. No hysteria, just reasonable questions every American citizen should have answers to. Instead, we have a complete unknown running the country who spends his money to keep people from those answers. Why?

49 posted on 08/06/2009 9:54:40 AM PDT by GBA
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To: go-ken-go

His evil bastard twin.


50 posted on 08/06/2009 9:54:49 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: kabar
Obama has failed to provide the primary documents to prove conclusively that he is eligible to be President, i.e., natural born.

Neither did the 46 prior presidents.

Interestingly, the senate felt compelled to pass a resolution [Obama was one of the sponsors] that John McCain was eligible to run for the Presidency

And the House just did the same for Obama.

51 posted on 08/06/2009 9:59:43 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: hummingbird

No, sorry, but government officials have no right, much less any duty, to release such documents, unless proper, LEGAL processes are followed.
It does not matter what those documents might say.


52 posted on 08/06/2009 10:06:40 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Non-Sequitur
There is NO question that John McCain was eligible.

There are, still, unanswered questions about Obama.

Besides, NOTHING Congress does can grant “retro-active” citizenship.

“Natural Born” means just that: What was the citizenship status at the time of birth?

53 posted on 08/06/2009 10:09:33 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Just like Watergate, it ain’t the crime, its the COVERUP(!) that will be his downfall.

Ok the Crime was in lying to the tune of wht 900Million in contributions, and what...10 TRILLION DOLLARS?

Yea, don’t wonder why we don’t know where that money went, its so we the people can never get it back once Obama has been jailed.


54 posted on 08/06/2009 10:09:55 AM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

What, you haven’t visited the presidential library archive room? Tell me what you think of this congressman going to Indonesia to collect documents for his American archives -

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/obamas-mop-up-m.html


55 posted on 08/06/2009 10:11:34 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: bgill
I had to take the following: Proof of place of birth, birth certificate, passport, utility bill to prove residence.

Yea, I offered more proof of who I am for my DRIVER'S LICENSE than Obama did for POTUS.

OBAMA YOU ARE A CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIEN UNTIL YOU PROVE OTHERWISE!
56 posted on 08/06/2009 10:12:13 AM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: AmericanVictory; kabar

A 5 person Senate committee of Obama, Clinton, etc. along with head of Homeland Security did define “natural born” citizen and the entire Senate signed off on SR 511 -

“Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html


57 posted on 08/06/2009 10:21:36 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Kansas58
There is NO question that John McCain was eligible.

Not by my way of thinking. The fact that both his parents were U.S. citizens takes care of his natural-born citizenship.

“Natural Born” means just that: What was the citizenship status at the time of birth?

And if Obama was born in Hawaii then that citzenship status would be natural-born citizen.

58 posted on 08/06/2009 10:27:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

P.S. I am listing below all of our presidents and details of their places of birth.

1. George Washington — Address: George Washington Birthplace National Monument; Rural Route 1; Box 717; Washington’s Birthplace, Va. 22443

2. John Adams — Address: 133 Franklin St.; Quincy, Mass. 02669

3.Thomas Jefferson — Address: U.S. 250; 3 miles east of Charlottesville, Va.

4. James Madison — Address: Monroe Hall; Virginia SR 205; Westmoreland County near Colonial Beach, Va. 22443

5.James Monroe — Address: Monroe Hall; Virginia SR 205; Westmoreland County near Colonial Beach, Va. 22443

6.John Quincy Adams — Address: 141 Franklin St.; Quincy, Mass. 02169

7.Andrew Jackson — Address: 14 miles south of Rock Hill on South Carolina State Route 5. The Park is on Route 1. Address:196 Andrew Jackson Park Road; Lancaster, S.C. 29720

8.Martin Van Buren — Address: 46 Hudson St.; Kinderhook, New York 12106

9.William Henry Harrison — Address: 12602 Harrison Landing Road; Charles City, Va. 23030

10. John Tyler — Address: John Tyler Memorial Highway; Charles City, Va. 23030

11. James Polk — Address: Box 475; Pineville, N.C. 28134

12. Zachary Taylor — Address: Highway 33; 5 miles west of Gordonsville, Va., and just over 20 miles from Charlottesville, Va.

13. Millard Fillmore — Address: Millard Fillmore Birthplace; Locke, N.Y. 13092

14. Franklin Pierce — Address: The Pierce Homestead; Routes 9 and 31; Hillsboro, N.H. 03244

15. James Buchanan — Address: Buchanan Historic Site; Mercersburg, Pa. 17236

16. Abraham Lincoln — Address: Sinking Spring Farm; 2995 Lincoln Farm Road; Hodgenville, Ky. 42748

17. Andrew Johnson — Address: Mordecai Historic Park; Wake Forest Road; Raleigh, N.C. 27601

18. Ulysses Grant — Address: Grant’s Birthplace; Routes 52E and 322; Point Pleasant, Ohio 45143

19. Rutherford Hayes — Address: Rutherford B. Hayes Birthplace; East William Street; Delaware, Ohio 43015

20. James Garfield — Address: James A. Garfield Birthplace; 4350 S.O.M Center Road; Moreland Hills (now Chagrin Falls); Cuyahoga County, Ohio 44022

21. Chester Arthur — Address: Chester A. Arthur State Historic Site; Route 36; Fairfield, Vt. 05455

22. Grover Cleveland — Address: Grover Cleveland Birthplace State Historic Site; 207 Bloomfield Avenue; Caldwell, N.J. 07006

23. Benjamin Harrison — Address: Benjamin Harrison Birthplace; William Henry Harrison Home; Symmes and Washington Avenues; North Bend, Ohio 45052

24. Grover Cleveland — Address: Grover Cleveland Birthplace State Historic Site; 207 Bloomfield Avenue; Caldwell, N.J. 07006

25. William McKinley — Address: William McKinley Birthplace; 36 S. Main St.; Niles, Ohio 44446

26. Theodore Roosevelt — Address: Theodore Roosevelt Birthplace National Historic Site; 28 East 20th St.; New York, N.Y. 10003

27. William Taft — Address: 2038 Auburn Ave., Cincinnati, Ohio 45219

28. Woodrow Wilson — Address: 18-24 Coalter Street, Staunton, Va. 24401

29. Warren Harding — Address: Highways 97 and 288, Blooming Grove, Ohio 44878

30. Calvin Coolidge — Address: P.O. Box 247, Plymouth, Vermont 05056

31. Herbert Hoover — Address: West Branch, Iowa 52538

32. Franklin Roosevelt — Address: 519 Albany Post Road, Hyde Park, N.Y. 12538

33. Harry Truman — Address: 1009 Truman Ave., Lamar, Mo. 64759

34. Dwight Eisenhower — Address: 208 East Day St., Denison, Texas 75020

35. John Kennedy — Address: 83 Beals St., Brookline, Mass. 02146

36. Lyndon Johnson — Address: Box 329 Johnson City, Texas 78636

37. Richard Nixon — Address: 18001 Yorba Linda Blvd., Yorba Linda, Calif. 92686

38. Gerald Ford — Address: 3202 Woolworth Ave, Omaha, Neb. 68103

39. James Carter — Address: 300 North Bond St., Plains, Ga. 31780

40. Ronald Reagan — Address: 119 S. Main St., Tampico, Ill. 61283

41. George H.W. Bush — Address: 173 Adams St, Milton, Mass. 02187

42. Bill Clinton — Address: Bill Clinton was born at the Julia Chester Hospital in Hope, Ark. The hospital has been demolished.

43. George W. Bush — Address: George W. was born to Barbara and George Bush in what was then Grace-New Haven Community Hospital and is now Yale-New Haven Hospital.

44. Barack Obama — Address: Unknown.


59 posted on 08/06/2009 10:29:43 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Non-Sequitur
However, Citizenship CAN be renounced, AFTER you are born.

It appears that Obama’s citizenship was compromised in such a way, due to his adoption by Soeterro, in Indonesia.

60 posted on 08/06/2009 10:32:04 AM PDT by Kansas58
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