Posted on 08/04/2009 3:04:17 PM PDT by Saint Reagan
WASHINGTON — A pair of nuclear-powered Russian attack submarines has been patrolling off the eastern seaboard of the United States over recent days, a rare mission that has raised concerns inside the Pentagon and intelligence agencies about a more assertive stance by the Russian military.
The episode has echoes of the cold war era, when the United States and the Soviet Union regularly parked submarines off each other’s coasts to steal military secrets, track the movements of their underwater fleets — and be poised for war.
But the collapse of the Soviet Union all but eliminated the ability of the Russian Navy to operate far from home ports, making the current submarine patrols thousands of miles from Russia even more surprising for military officials and defense policy experts.
“I don’t think they’ve put two first-line nuclear subs off the U.S. coast in about 15 years,” said Norman Polmar, a naval historian and expert on submarine warfare.
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You got that right - Newport is nerve gas; and Crane is a Navy & Army ammo and ordnance manufacturer and storage. 50 + or - miles within in each. Something happens to either facility, hiding under a desk or doorway would make as much sense as trying to outdrive it. I use to just shake my head during our bomb drills in grade school.
You can survive unless you are at the minimum safe distance or have a home with a deep basement. Also,if your basement has windows cover them with dirt.
/mark
It could also be that the Russians are purposely having the tests fail (having tested the real models secretly) so they can build tons of the missiles without us saying anything about it.
Also they have been upgrading their old missiles.
Medvedev issued a decree ordering the replacement of General Nikolai Solovtsov by General Andrei Shvaichenko as commander of the Russian Strategic Rocket Forces. He was fired of the string of failures in the last year both land based missiles and sea based missiles. They are upgrading their current stockpile of missiles.
I always keep tabs on their missile leadership and the overal status of the Strategic Rocket Forces.
Huh? Did you not see the intercept images of Russian strategic nuclear capable bombers off the coast of the US when Bush was in office? It makes absolutely no difference who is in power. This is international waters and international airspace.
The bird farms always wrecked perfectly good liberty ports. I’d get freebies until they showed up.
I haven’t read his books, but I’m not aware of any evidence that the missile fuel story is a dodge.
Yeah, that pipefitting errors show up even on American boats (USS Thresher comes to mind) but it must have been an enormous problem in the Soviet fleet. The stories about workday drinking in "MiG Pilot" could curl your hair.
We were actually on the beach, admiring the atmospheres (.)(.)
And then the Ch Eng (Former enlisted BT type) he and I watched the island structure come up over the horizon, and I knew who was in the area...He flipped a gasket and said there goes the nieghborhood...
He yelled out in a semi-stuporous manner...
“THE AMERICAN NAVY IS COMING!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!”
He cleared about half the beach on that one...I’ve never forgotten that...Bout threw up laughing so hard...
We saved a couple of the girls from those dastardly airdales...
Oh to be young again...
Uh, mine says "MacBook Pro".
Wonderful little laptop.
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