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Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.
The New York Times ^ | August 4, 2009 | Mark Mazzetti & Thom Shanker

Posted on 08/04/2009 3:04:17 PM PDT by Saint Reagan

WASHINGTON — A pair of nuclear-powered Russian attack submarines has been patrolling off the eastern seaboard of the United States over recent days, a rare mission that has raised concerns inside the Pentagon and intelligence agencies about a more assertive stance by the Russian military.

The episode has echoes of the cold war era, when the United States and the Soviet Union regularly parked submarines off each other’s coasts to steal military secrets, track the movements of their underwater fleets — and be poised for war.

But the collapse of the Soviet Union all but eliminated the ability of the Russian Navy to operate far from home ports, making the current submarine patrols thousands of miles from Russia even more surprising for military officials and defense policy experts.

“I don’t think they’ve put two first-line nuclear subs off the U.S. coast in about 15 years,” said Norman Polmar, a naval historian and expert on submarine warfare.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: appeasement; bhorussia; bhoussr; coldwar2; communism; kgb; navair; navy; putin; redarmy; resetbutton; russia; russianmilitary; russiannavy; russkiesop; sovietnavy; sovietunion; ussr; ussr2
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To: spikeytx86

They can easily be ballistic missile subs in the future.


101 posted on 08/04/2009 8:05:42 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I don't mind being called tough, because in this racket it's tough guys who lead the survivors.)
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To: Strategerist

True, and these movements probably aren’t a real threat. Still, if they wanted to decapitate our government and make a retaliatory strike much less likely, a launch from right off the coast would be the way to go.


102 posted on 08/04/2009 8:05:56 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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To: mojitojoe
Putin may be the only guy that I have seen intimidate Obama...Obama already respects his Communist ideology, but Obama knows that Putin thinks he is putz.
103 posted on 08/04/2009 8:19:58 PM PDT by madinmadtown (Nuclear...better to mispronounce it, than not understand it.)
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To: Palladin

Loose lips sink ships?????


104 posted on 08/04/2009 8:24:11 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: stevie_d_64

LOL. You know I was being rhetorical with my question, right???


105 posted on 08/04/2009 8:24:47 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: Saint Reagan

“The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming”!! One of the funniest movies I have ever seen...sorry...couldn’t help it. This reminded me of it.


106 posted on 08/04/2009 8:28:44 PM PDT by Sistyelder
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To: Saint Reagan

107 posted on 08/04/2009 8:29:26 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“’Deal,’ Comrade Kenya? I am not recalling ‘deal.’ Refreshing memory, perhaps???”


108 posted on 08/04/2009 8:38:19 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Saint Reagan

Maybe they are trolling for the off shore oil we don’t want/sarc


109 posted on 08/04/2009 8:38:38 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: Saint Reagan

Are the Russian sailors on board wearing their shirts?


110 posted on 08/04/2009 8:42:14 PM PDT by Mamzelle (bring your cameras to all political gatherings--video if you can)
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To: sonofstrangelove

That reminded me of this...


111 posted on 08/04/2009 8:42:14 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: Saint Reagan
"One ping only..."



112 posted on 08/04/2009 8:46:48 PM PDT by GQuagmire
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To: GQuagmire

"Andrei...you've lost another submarine?"

113 posted on 08/04/2009 8:51:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: the invisib1e hand

Russian missiles these days,including ones on boomers, have a poor operational record


114 posted on 08/04/2009 8:52:24 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I don't mind being called tough, because in this racket it's tough guys who lead the survivors.)
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To: spikeytx86

Spikey,

You are forgetting many of these Russian subs are equipped with nuclear tipped torpedoes.


115 posted on 08/04/2009 8:55:02 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I don't mind being called tough, because in this racket it's tough guys who lead the survivors.)
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To: Saint Reagan
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit doing Vodka shots with former Soviet sailors.


116 posted on 08/04/2009 8:55:18 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Ashviadan
"I had no idea..."

You're not alone - that's why I like to mention it on here every so often.

117 posted on 08/04/2009 8:57:19 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Saint Reagan

probably just some old timers there to help Comrade Obama with his plans for a new direction to take Amerika to


118 posted on 08/04/2009 8:57:27 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: BlueNgold
Where the heck is Jack Ryan when you need him???

He saw what Jack Bauer could do, pissed his pants and went cryin' home to his momma.
119 posted on 08/04/2009 9:03:48 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / Declaration of Independence - 5th sentence)
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To: Snickering Hound

Jeez. What is it with all these creepy pictures of Putin lately? I really am starting to take seriously all the homosexual comments about him...posing in various uniforms (and without them)


120 posted on 08/04/2009 9:06:07 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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