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Snooping for clunkers: Government trades car credits for access to computer files
The Washington Times ^ | August 4, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 08/03/2009 9:24:15 PM PDT by Abakumov

"When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a Federal computer system and is the property of the U.S. Government. Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected and disclosed to authorized CARS, [Department of Transportation] and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; clunkers; computers; privacy; spying
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1 posted on 08/03/2009 9:24:15 PM PDT by Abakumov
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To: Abakumov

One thing I have not heard in all the C4C talk is the tax all the folks who went for this will have to pay on the income tax forms at the end of the year. Bet some are going to be surprised.


2 posted on 08/03/2009 9:35:31 PM PDT by celtic gal (CONGRESS IS FULL OF CLUNKERS AND THEY CARRY A (D) AFTER THEIR NAMES)
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To: Abakumov

Is this not the case anytime one logs on to a fed system?


3 posted on 08/03/2009 9:36:54 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: celtic gal
One thing I have not heard in all the C4C talk is the tax all the folks who went for this will have to pay on the income tax forms at the end of the year. Bet some are going to be surprised.

SHH! Reminds of Oprah's car giveaway. The ingrates whined about the taxes. Other people should pay taxes, not the ones who receive the largess.

4 posted on 08/03/2009 9:38:56 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Abakumov
GMAB, a computer is, at its essance, a hard drive with files and software. "Build" a specific one to connect to the gov't that has NO files giving privacy away to the gov't.

It's not hard.

5 posted on 08/03/2009 9:39:10 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Abakumov
Here is a u-tube video from Glenn Beck that shows the screen, sorry I don't know how to post a hyperlink.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_cyRPJ3yZA&feature=related

6 posted on 08/03/2009 9:40:25 PM PDT by Angel
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To: Abakumov
Glenn Beck's take on this.

7 posted on 08/03/2009 9:42:22 PM PDT by glock rocks (health care, gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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To: Angel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_cyRPJ3yZA&feature=related
8 posted on 08/03/2009 9:43:12 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Paladin2
If I was a dealer, I would spend $350 at Costco for an Acer netbook and dedicate it to the C4C activity. Don't connect any regular business computers. The only thing the snoops will see is a clean Windows netbook.
9 posted on 08/03/2009 9:43:32 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: the invisib1e hand
Is this not the case anytime one logs on to a fed system?

Hell, it's probably the case any time you turn your computer on these days...

10 posted on 08/03/2009 9:44:05 PM PDT by glock rocks (health care, gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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To: Abakumov

If they’ll give me $4500 (cash) they can HAVE my computer.


11 posted on 08/03/2009 9:48:26 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Abakumov
*Gomer Pyle's voice/*

Surprises!
Surprises!
Surprises!

*/Gomer Pyle's voice*

Orwell's 1984, has arrived

12 posted on 08/03/2009 9:48:49 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: glock rocks
Is this not the case anytime one logs on to a fed system?
Hell, it's probably the case any time you turn your computer on these days...

Technology can be used against us!!

They can track you when you use a cellphone.
Use a computer and they keep tabs where you go.
The digital converter box's are hooked into phone lines
so who knows.
If your state has a chip in your drivers license they can
track you at red light cameras.

13 posted on 08/03/2009 9:50:29 PM PDT by freedommom
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To: celtic gal

I’m no fan of this socialist redistribution scheme, but the law specifically states that it is not to be considered as income for tax purposes. Saying that people will have to declare it on their tax forms is just flat wrong.


14 posted on 08/03/2009 10:16:19 PM PDT by franklog
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To: Myrddin

“Don’t connect any regular business computers.”

Trust me, if the government wants into your network, they’ll get in.

Techies were trying to warn people of this problem a LONG time ago.

It’s too late. The government has a real-time, birds-eye view of just about anything they want to see now.

Commercial encryption is a joke, the government has the punchline, and ISP’s rollover like dogs for the government nowadays.

You are being watched, or, at least, data you create today is being stored for ‘evidence’ later, if needed.

You folks that load up Facebook, and the like, with personal information are brave souls, or ignorant of the risks.

Anyway, this is how it happens, you ‘wake up’ one day and realize that you’re not free anymore.

This hard-left onslaught we’re suffering through right now might just be the BIGGEST case of this ‘waking up’ in human history.

This health care/cap ‘n trade thing has nothing at all to do with health care or global warming.

You are being enslaved and you don’t even know it.

But you will likely discount me as extreme/alarmist/kook like you did when I was trying to warn people about snooping gov’t computer goons ten years ago.

(you, in the general sense)


15 posted on 08/03/2009 11:47:18 PM PDT by Boucheau (The enemy of freedom is on the left.)
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To: Boucheau
Trust me, if the government wants into your network, they’ll get in.

You mean the United States Government .....

The Chinese government has enjoyed that sort of entree for years, thanks to their army of hackers, crackers, and spamcriminals.

16 posted on 08/03/2009 11:58:37 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Abakumov

“The American Civil Liberties Union showed no interest in investigating the invasion of privacy and would only comment to us that “it is hard to believe that [the Obama administration] would do something like this.” Big Brother can get away with a lot when the watch dogs aren’t watching what’s going on. “

I mentioned Glenn Beck’s report on this to my 30 yr old son. His reply, while rolling his eyes....mom, you’ve got to stop listening to these conspiracy theorists.


17 posted on 08/04/2009 12:01:33 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.........DeMint/Sessions, 2012)
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To: the invisib1e hand

No. Govt snooping on your PC when logged into a govt site is no different than spyware, malware, virus makers, etc.

Unexcuseable.


18 posted on 08/04/2009 12:12:27 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Mainstream Media cheered: Ascension of Castro, Chavez and now Obama.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Oh, yes, the east is having a field day with our love of technology.

Americans forgot the commies are smart.

That’s why we’re in the mess we’re in right now.


19 posted on 08/04/2009 12:21:48 AM PDT by Boucheau (The enemy of freedom is on the left.)
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To: Abakumov

I’m pretty sure this is a result of someone using a boilerplate warning for the system.

Car dealerships aren’t forced to participate in the program, right? It seems a bit naive to think that you can make deals with the government and not have give something precious in return. If privacy is important to you, maybe it’s better to not cooperate with the government.


20 posted on 08/04/2009 12:58:32 AM PDT by RogerAdams
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