Heads Up - Multiple COLBS Warning [someone swapped out the Kenya BC AFTER it was posted]

Various ^ | August 3, 2009 | Various

[truthfreedom]

Long newish thread about Bomford doc

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2308435/posts?page=331

Discusses the importance of Book / Page
Do they even have Book / Page in South Australia?
Do they even have “certified copy of registration of birth” in South Australia?

[Swordmaker]

Someone got up early or stayed up late on Sunday AM, and saw the original thread. The original thread had a link to the scribd pdf which has the JPG embedded in it. They brought this up and captured the JPG so it could be seen on the thread in an IMG tag (rather than just a link to the PDF). In the process of saving the JPG they inadvertantly made it more lossy which resulted in the image you show at the top of this thread labeled "original".

Palmer, you can use my name. I was the one who posted it.

Swordmaker.

[Karl Popper]

Here are some points I’ve come up with:

The District of Hindmarsh is in Victoria Australia, not South Australia (A different State completely). There is a Hindmarsh in South Australia next to Adelaide (the capitol of the State) but its postcode is 5007 not 5733. The postcode 5733 is for Marree in South Australia, which is about 400km (about 280 miles) North of where the hospital could have been at Mile End.

[Karl Popper]

You US people should know something...

The District of Hindmarsh is in Victoria Australia, not South Australia (A different State completely). There is a Hindmarsh in South Australia next to Adelaide (the capitol of the State) but its postcode is 5007 not 5733. The postcode 5733 is for Marree in South Australia, which is about 400km (about 280 miles) North of where the hospital could have been at Mile End.

[Swordmaker]

Pica and Elite (may be similar to Courier) are the two types on the machines I remember using from that time, I am sure there were others. Elite may be similar to courier, but I haven’t done a close comparison.

Pica and Elite on typewriters are not typefaces (commonly called fonts, these days) but rather are different spacings. A Pica typewriter will place the characters on a paper at ten characters per inch. An Elite typewriter will do it at 12 characters per inch. That is the only difference.

[Swordmaker]

I’m pretty sure the Kenyan document is typed in Elite font. Most typewriters of that era were either Elite or Pica. I know, because I used those old machines.

Jedidah, You are making the basic mistake most computer users make... a font is not a typeface... or a "font" (which also isn't a typeface although we are more and more using it to mean that)

A Pica is a unit of measurement used in printing. It is 1/72nd of an inch.

Neither Elite nor Pica, when referring to a typewriter, are typefaces or fonts. Both refer to the pitch of the typewriter, i.e., how many characters per inch that particular model will place on a page a paper. A Pica typewriter, regardless of the typeface used, will strike the paper, adding a character, and then move the platen to the left 10/72", thus resulting in a pitch of 10 characters per inch. An Elite Typewriter, also regardless of the typeface used, will hit the paper, and then move the platen over 8/72", resulting in a pitch of 12 characters per inch. An Elite typewriter could place more letters and spaces and thus more words on a page than a Pica typewriter... College students loved Pica typewriters because it was easier to turn out a 10 page paper using 10 letters per inch than it was to do the same using 12 letters per inch. Pica type was also larger and a bit easier to read.

Most typewriters were single pitch machines. The IBM Selectric was one of the first selectable pitch typewriters.

[Swordmaker]

I gotta go with the typewriter being used HAD A “1” KEY, and for what ever reason the person typing this happened to use the “1” key for the 1st line then after that habit typing took over and they used the lower case “l”.

That is certainly possible. But as an old typist, I can tell you that the hands do the typing, not the mind. Your hands get into a pattern to use the lower case "l" key for a one and the upper case "O" key for a zero, and it is a hard habit to break just because you suddenly have a nifty, new typewriter with a "1" key and a "0" key...

But even more telling is that the typeface of that spurious "1" character does not match the typeface of the rest of the characters in the set. All the others have serifs while that "1" does not. A serif is the decorative grace line added to letters or characters such as the footer seen on this "1"—which actually are more than just decorations because they make it easier to follow a line of print. That "1" without the footer belongs to an entirely different typeface... which is a big red flag that the Australian BC is bogused up in some way and the forger made an error. The "1" that should have accompanied this typeface would have looked similar to the lower case "l" but would have had the slanted flag that IS on that "1".

[Delacon]

I’m from Delaware and want to know where Castle stands on the issues especially after he screwed us all on cap and trade and I now have a feeling he is going to screw us on healthcare. The DEGOP wont help because they are 4 square behind him to either get re-elected to the house or win a Senate seat but if I search anywhere, its nothing but comments about the birther lady. Let it go birthers.

[Swordmaker]

Or could it have been an IBM Selectric

I doubt it. Neither one of these suspect BCs show the characteristic superb spacing and even baseline ability, giving a near "typeset" quality, for which that the IBM Selectric was famous. Instead we see slipped spacing, baseline jumping, and even close overstrikes. That would not be possible on the IBM Selectric.

Actually they look like the product of old, worn typewriters that might be found in government offices. . . especially colonial offices that got the hand-me-downs of other more important ministry offices.

[Swordmaker]

It is interesting. I think the very word “azure”, through a genesis of spellings and middle eastern languages and then European languages, derived from ‘lapis lazuli’.

Good call:

ORIGIN Middle English (denoting a blue dye): from Old French asur, azur, from medieval Latin azzurum, azolum, from Arabic al ‘the’ + lāzaward (from Persian lāžward ‘lapis lazuli’ ).—Source American Oxford Dictionary

[Delacon]

Does anyone know the historical significance of mauve? Or what it actually is?

[truthfreedom]

The 5733 is the “page”

Do you know if South Australia uses a book / page system?

[Swordmaker]

Over at DU they’ll soon be posting “Swordmaker’s fault” rather than “Bush’s fault”.

Well, then I'll be in good company.

[Swordmaker]

Does anyone know the historical significance of mauve? Or what it actually is?

From Google:

Both of these, apparently, are mauve. Maybe women and interior decorators might know why they are different... I sure don't.

From the Oxford American Dictionary:

mauve |mōv; môv|
adjective
of a pale purple color.
noun
1 a pale purple color : a few pale streaks of mauve were all that remained of the sunset | glowing with soft pastel mauves and pinks.
2 historical a bright but delicate pale purple aniline dye prepared by William H. Perkin (1838–1907) in 1856. It was the first synthetic dyestuff.

ORIGIN mid 19th cent.: from French, literally ‘mallow,’ from Latin malva.

mallow |ˈmalō|
noun
a herbaceous plant with hairy stems, pink or purple flowers, and disk-shaped fruit. Several kinds are grown as ornamentals, and some are edible. • Genus Malva, family Malvaceae (the mallow family): many species. This family also includes the hollyhocks, hibiscus, and abutilon. See also marsh mallow , rose mallow .

is that enough?

[nikos1121]

Well I went into this thinking the BC is a unique forgery, then on closer exam it seemed clear that because of the signatures it would be easy to disprove its authenticity, but then again prove its authenticity/

Now, I’m actually thinking this thing might be real, but I’m not holding my breath.

[bustinchops]

I think mauve is simply the name of a purplish gray color with no other significance. I do know that purple was a color reserved for or obtainable only by royalty starting several thousand years ago because it was such a costly dye to make, so maybe mauve was sort of a watered-down, poor man’s purple.

[palmer]

thanks, I wrote that particular post before someone pointed out that it was your JPG that caused the confusion. I found your posts about it afterwards. I’ve done some quick and dirty postings in my day figuring I was helping the cause but really caused confusion (mostly poorly researched text). If I posted more images like you and the others I would have easily done the same and posted a lossy JPG like that. I’m just sorry I didn’t read your earlier post sooner instead of speculating how it might have happened.

[PoliticsAndSausages]

Not to be insulting, but I find the whole Obama birth thing to be about as sensible as the 9/11 conspiracy thing.

[Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness]

It is well documented that Stanley Anne Dunham enrolled in classes at the University of Washington within 15 days of having had BH0 (if 4 Aug is his actual birth date). Where she was before is certainly unclear, but it does seem reasonable to believe that she was in Seattle for the time period before her return to Hawaii.

Assuming Aug.4 is the date of BHO's birth, and were he born in Kenya, it's more than likely that Stanley Anne flew from Kenya to the UK, from the UK to New York, then New York to Washington state, a sizable amount of travel back in 1961, especially with her newly hatched beelzebaby in tow.

Throwing this out there - do airlines typically keep manifests from years ago? Odds are that BOAC was the carrier from Kenya to the UK then.

Some investigation of transportation records into and out of Kenya during August 1961 may turn something up.

[truthfreedom]

Solution to the Bomford / Kenyan issue.

The 44B 5573 refers to a book (44B) and a page in a book (5573)

I think I have that part figured out.

1 is the first book, then 2, up to 999
then
1A is right after 999, then 2A, up to 999A
then
1B is right after 999A, then 2B, up to 999B

Anyway, we have the method to find the answer.

Book / Page does or did work in South Australia

The District Code for HINDMARSH is HIN.

if 44B 5573 is Bomford, then the Kenyan doc is fake.

The following link gives 63 matches for South Australia and
Hin

http://boards.ancestry.com/AdvancedSearch.aspx?p=localities.oceania.australia.sa&cst=category&csn=South+Australia

44B 5573 is not found in ancestry.com, but I assume that it
would be fairly easy for someone in Australia to find it all out.

So, you know, that’s how you find out the answer. No more guessing at fonts.

Either 44B 5573 = Bomfort, and the Kenyan doc is fake or
44B 5573 does not = Bomfort, and the Aussie doc is fake.

So, you know, somebody with some money should get the answer today.