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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Don't jump me for saying this, but pause and think about it. I hope she wins as well. This cuts to the core of our current American society. Just like I think a Bank's shareholders should sue their executives and loan officers for lending to less than qualified borrowers, parents or students should be able to sue Universities for failing to provide an education that led to lucrative employment. The bottom line is this...if everyone’s credit scores and college entrance scores are exceptional then everyone is really just average or should I say, adequate. This girl IS an idiot, but along the way, her parents told her she could do/be anything, and a “nice” high school adviser told her she had what it takes to go to college, and a liberal college admissions office let her in and somewhere a loan officer managing college loans or grants loaned her the money to pay for it. And so on and so forth, making it sooo easy for every mediocre highschool burnout to go to college. At this rate, we will end up with doctors that don't know medicine or some Ivy League Graduate as President who is actually just a mediocre empty suited idiot. ...just saying.
19 posted on 08/03/2009 8:18:56 AM PDT by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: John.Galt2012
This girl IS an idiot, but along the way, her parents told her she could do/be anything, and a “nice” high school adviser told her she had what it takes to go to college, and a liberal college admissions office let her in and somewhere a loan officer managing college loans or grants loaned her the money to pay for it.

Yes she is, along with MANY of the kids who are herded into college and saddled with years of debt unnecessarily. College loan officers are some of the biggest "predatory" lenders in the country. Most of these kids have no business being in secondary schools -- but we've romanticized the idea of the University to the point where every parent desperately wants to believe their precious children belong there. Some of them belong in trade schools, some of them belong in the work force. Not everybody is cut out for college, not everybody gets something useful out of it. The sooner we understand that and stop stigmatizing other options and paths, the better off we'll be.

33 posted on 08/03/2009 8:55:27 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: John.Galt2012

I agree with the first few lines in your post, but I do believe almost everyone can do anything with some effort. Apparently, she earned the degree. I don’t know how worthwhile a degree from this particular college is. But, even a degree from an Ivy League university doesn’t guarantee a job. The degree is just a sheepskin. It doesn’t guarantee the degree-holder can sell himself/herself in an interview or that the student will make a good employee, no matter how brilliant that student might’ve been.

One of my employers had to review 200 resumes for a position once. The position was identical to the position I was holding, and I had nothing more than an associates from a community college. (I’d worked my way into the position.) Yet, most of the resumes we received were from applicants with bachelor’s and master’s degrees from Ivy League universities. My boss was notoriously mean to the core, and he was laughing at those resumes. One was so funny that I myself still joke about it today, 20 years later, and this applicant claimed to have a master’s from the University of Pennsylvania. My boss trashed most of them, so their resumes couldn’t even get them to the interview process, even with those degrees. A few were invited for interviews, but they just didn’t sell themselves well. He did hire someone finally, and she did have a degree from an Ivy League university, but she had written a decent resume and sold herself in the interview.

So, no matter how many thousands a person spends in education, there are other factors at play.


37 posted on 08/03/2009 9:00:07 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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