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Aquabird, please provide a link to the WND article that claims they have birth cert documentation from that era that matches Orly’s document. It won’t change Mount Athos’ opinion which was determined from the onset, but it matters to me because I still have an open mind and am in the discovery phase of the investigation.

Thanks!

It’s in this article:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

It won’t change Mount Athos’ opinion which was determined from the onset

If you go through the main thread, you'll see I had an open mind from the start.

I believe I was the first freeper who pointed out the close proximity of the divorce to the document issuance, lending credence to the document.

Having an official document header and seal marked "republic of kenya" 10 months before Kenya became one is a big reason to be skeptical of the document. It doesn't mean the document is false, it means there was good reason to doubt it.

To counter this skepticism, people have posted several false pieces of information that I have repeatedly debunked. Just because I debunk clearly false information, doesn't mean I have a closed mind. It means I want the discussion to founded on valid facts. I'm open to the possibility that the document is real. It doesn't advance the discussion to support an idea based on false facts.

False bits of information repeatedly injected into the discussion include:

That the 1963 constitution called Kenya a republic (it didn't, and it wasn't a republic, the constitution made the queen of england the head of state!)

That stamps were issued in 1964 or before that have the word republic on it, indicating kenya called itself a republic before it became one. NO stamps have the word republic on it before 1964, and it turns out the 5 1964 stamps that DO have the word republic on it were issued exactly on Dec 12th 1964, when it did become a republic.

That newspaper clippings indicate the country called itself "republic of kenya". So far the only newspapers cited are the "Nevada Palladium Times" and an obscure upcountry New York paper, hardly an authoritative source on what the world called Kenya at the time. The big papers didn't call Kenya a republic until it became one... There's a citation of a famous London paper quoting opposition leaders as saying they wanted to form a republic, and now we have a couple freepers falsely claiming this paper called kenya the "Republic of Kenya" back in 1963 before independence. The phrase isn't in the article.

That the WND article showed images of two documents, showing that documents at the time had the exact same characteristics. The WND article actually shows two images of the same document. It doesn't show any images of the documents they say they used for comparison. It doesn't say if the comparison documents were before or after dec 12 1964. I hope they do post this information and images.

It turns out that "coastal province" where Obama was born, was not in the territorial bounds of Kenya at the time. It was a "protectorate of Kenya", and may have called itself "Republic of Kenya". It's 10 miles of territory that Kenya leased from Zanzibar. Confusing eh?

This would explain why the documents have header and seal labled REPUBLIC OF KENYA, even though the main country of kenya didn't consider itself a republic and didn't refer to itself this way when the document was issued. BP's finding give a big boost to the chance the document could be real.

Does it sound like I have an open mind now?