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To: Jim Robinson
Okay, I'm not the smartest here. Probably not even in the top 50%. My wife is a bit smarter probably top 40%. We're wondering why is it there is even any question at all as to the eligibility of this president? I worked for the Feds. for 4 years and the wife currently works for the Feds. We know what we went through to get our jobs. Why is it that the Commander in Chief can't at least show what we did to prove we are eligible for employment?

Take my case for instance - 3 different times I applied for a Fed. job. Went through the whole process including test, physical, interview and background check. Met with OPM investigators for several hours and answered several questions in which I knew they would investigate. And investigate they did, to include ex-wife and neighbors I had several years prior. I can access the report via FOIA and have done so. Amazing what ex’es say about you. In the final analysis, they take the investigation as a whole to evaluate your character. Eventually took a job from them that I didn't really want, got tired of their politically correct BS and moved on after 4 years.

My question is - Did they do the same for Hussein Obama? Does he have a file that can be accessed from FOIA? Mine can and if taken as whole can see that I was fit for Fed. service which is evidence because I worked for them for over 4 years. But what about Hussein 0bama? Did they ask him the same questions they asked me? If so - Did they further investigate? Just some things I'm wondering.

84 posted on 08/02/2009 5:32:18 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed
Take my case for instance - 3 different times I applied for a Fed. job. Went through the whole process including test, physical, interview and background check. Met with OPM investigators for several hours and answered several questions in which I knew they would investigate. And investigate they did, to include ex-wife and neighbors I had several years prior.

My question is - Did they do the same for Hussein Obama?

I hate to break it to you but that kind of thing has not been done to any presidential candidate. We generally rely on the really long campaigns to do the "vetting" process. Not saying it's right or wrong but it's no different from any other President.

117 posted on 08/02/2009 5:49:36 PM PDT by saquin
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To: appleseed

I understand. I used to work with a guy from Africa that I can’t remember why was questioned by the FBI. They knew what he was doing a specific day when he was 5 years old in Africa. We were all astounded by that.

So don’t tell me Obama can not produce is true and verified birth certificate.


132 posted on 08/02/2009 5:56:17 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: appleseed

my question is, how in the WORLD did he get a security clearance without proving where he was born!!!


138 posted on 08/02/2009 5:59:12 PM PDT by romans828
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To: appleseed
The U.S. Constitution requires that the President elect show proof of eligibility or he is not allowed to be President. Our Congress owes us an explanation or else face the consequences.

I'm going to post this so that EVERYONE who thinks we are powerless to do something about this understands how best to go about it. We need to find the legal remedy enabling us to charge our representatives with disobeying their oaths of office and start removing them one by one. Here is the case.

Exhibit A, The Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 reads as follows:

" ”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Exhibit B U. S. Code, CITE: 3USC19

TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT, CHAPTER 1- PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES

Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act

”(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President. “

Exhibit C: U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials:

” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

Exhibit D: The Electoral Vote Counting Act of 1877:

The process currently provides that someone “challenge” the electoral votes during a short, specified time frame while the Electoral College votes are opened and tabulated. This process does not cover challenges to "eligibility" qualifications. In fact, if this act pretends to do so in the manner in which it prescribes, it is unconstitutional. Any act of this sort that does not require that qualifications be presented by the President elect serves to undercut the provisions in the Constitution itself. No act that does not support the Constitution is constitutional. In order to change the requirements of the Twentieth amendment, one would need to pass another amendment. An “Act” doesn’t cut the mustard.

The portion in bold stating “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify” in section three is particularly interesting in that it plainly seems to infer that a “qualification” of some sort must be made in order to serve as President. Certainly, one cannot argue that it does not require a qualification process for one to “qualify”. To infer that the lack of a “specified” qualification process means that stated eligibility “qualifications” for the office of president can be ignored is fallacious. The wording of this passage in the twentieth amendment clearly infers that a qualification is required, regardless of how this is done.

There is only one set of qualifications listed anywhere in the Constitution that are not health related and they are listed in Article two, section one.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a president elect must present evidence that he meets it’s requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. In fact, without establishing whether or not the President elect is "qualified", Congress would not know whether or not to step in and name a temporary replacement as the Amendment requires. Certainly, this means that the proof of "qualifications" must be presented to Congress.

If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented? If this was done, why would we not have the right to verify and inspect it under the freedom of information act?

If it was NOT done, then under the provisions of the twentieth amendment, Barrack Obama has “failed to qualify” and should not be serving as president of the United States of America.

Based upon the above, I conclude that:

1. We currently have a vacancy at President because no one has yet “qualified” as required in the Twentieth amendment. The terms "The President elect shall have failed to qualify" clearly places this burden upon the President elect and not on someone raising their hand in objection.

2. Anyone serving in Congress (see “Congress” in bold in Exhibit A), or anyone who is currently serving under the oath of office in Article six has "standing" and can DEMAND that their oaths be met by receiving proper “qualifying” documentation from Mr. Obama. This charade at the time of counting the Electoral College votes does not limit their ability to do so at any time they so choose. The very fact that they are duty-bound by oath to "support" the Constitution REQUIRES them to respond to any and all attacks against it. No judge can deny any of them the standing to do so. It would ask them to break the law in their effort to enforce the law.

3. We need to start pressing legal charges against all of our local representatives and senators covered by the oath of office in Article six for disobeying their oaths to support the Constitution as it pertains to the language of section three of the Twentieth amendment. Put PRESSURE on them to represent the document that gives them their authority in the first place. We are looking into how best to do this down here. We all should be looking into this approach. NOW.

159 posted on 08/02/2009 6:08:08 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: appleseed

Worse yet is the fact that someone elected President gets automatic access to the highest classification of documents with ZERO background checks while some of us while employed by the DoD had to go through 5-year upgrades.


165 posted on 08/02/2009 6:11:23 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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