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To: LouieFisk; Mount Athos

See no. 5160 on the long thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?q=1&;page=5151

A newspaper article from the Times of London, Oct. 9, 1963, using the term Republic of Kenya. This was the moment that Kenyatta’s party announced their intent to take the country independent, to reject the transitional form of government. It lead to the Dec. 12, 1963, constitution.

They considered themselves a republic from the point at which they declared their full independence from England (while remaining in the Commonwealth). England did not fight this declaration of independence. It was something of a slap at England since “republic” had always had anti-monarchical overtones, hence most other independent countries in the Commonwealth opted for Dominion or Commonwealth. But Kenyatta and his backers clearly chose “Republic” at the moment they announced their independence in Oct. 1963.

No, the Dec. 1963 Constitution did not use the term. But the term was being used by the leadership of independent Kenya from October 1963 onward. It is not unreasonable to assume that forms were printed with “Republic of Kenya” on them during 1964.

Whether this document is authentic or not, we still do not know, but the use of “Republic” does not prove it false.


788 posted on 08/03/2009 8:48:34 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.
They considered themselves a republic from the point at which they declared their full independence from England (while remaining in the Commonwealth). England did not fight this declaration of independence. It was something of a slap at England since “republic” had always had anti-monarchical overtones, hence most other independent countries in the Commonwealth opted for Dominion or Commonwealth. But Kenyatta and his backers clearly chose “Republic” at the moment they announced their independence in Oct. 1963.

I agree, it's possible a bureaucracy enthusiastic for the Republic changed the letterhead early. The only way to tell is if someone produces some other BCs issued around the same time.

794 posted on 08/03/2009 8:56:20 AM PDT by cynwoody
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"Houghton M. - - LouieFisk; A newspaper article from the Times of London, Oct. 9, 1963, using the term Republic of Kenya."

I was addressing the WND article's lack of information on what "appeared to be" identical. If WND has Kenyan BCs from that time, even give or take a month, which makes usage of "Republic Of Kenya" it would solidly address the question in specific due it's singular nature.

Whether this document is authentic or not, we still do not know,

Yeah, I'm taking a wait & see view, the facts will come out sooner or later. Interesting to kick around in the meantime, tho.

but the use of “Republic” does not prove it false.

On the other hand, if it's the only BC in the history of Kenya using the "Republic Of Kenya" at that time, it's my thinking it should be considered quite suspect.
811 posted on 08/03/2009 9:09:35 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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