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To: Star Traveler
Yes, for the future. Now, though, pursuing the issue of his lack of documentation casts doubt on him, his actions, and gets those who wonder "Well, why not just show the papers?" to start applying critical thinking to all he says, not just swallowing the superficial drivel the MSM has been pumping out for him.

It is that shift to critical thinking by those of the electorate who are not starry-eyed worshipers of Obama which will bring about the sea change in public opinion.

The more people find out, the more they begin to question the talking heads and newsreaders who have mislead them as well.

This is the unforseen windfall of continuing to pursue the issue in addition to opposing the policies which are being crafted by the Socialists in D.C.

Cast doubt on the man, cast doubt on his policy.

475 posted on 08/02/2009 12:12:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Pursuing the issue of his lack of documentation casts doubt on him, his actions, and gets those who wonder “Well, why not just show the papers?” to start applying critical thinking to all he says, not just swallowing the superficial drivel the MSM has been pumping out for him.
It is that shift to critical thinking by those of the electorate who are not starry-eyed worshipers of Obama which will bring about the sea change in public opinion.
The more people find out, the more they begin to question the talking heads and newsreaders who have mislead them as well. This is the unforseen windfall of continuing to pursue the issue in addition to opposing the policies which are being crafted by the Socialists in D.C.
***Excellent point, well written, bump for later use. I’m surprised there were no replies ‘til now.


476 posted on 08/02/2009 1:13:12 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Smokin' Joe

A few years ago the company I work for held an “ethics” refresher day. All employees of the company had to attend and listen to various presentations reinforcing the ethical behavior expected of all employees (brought about by the unethical behavior of executives in the company, LOL).
Anyway, besides the numerous and absurd assumptions behind the program, we, the collective, were addressed by video by a former cabinet official, I forget his name, and admonished that Washington, DC, was the most ethical place on earth. One could not possibly get any business done in Washington without having a reputation for scrupulous ethics. A quiet laugh murmured through the captive audience.

We all know the lies Washington and its ilk presents to us as truth.


482 posted on 08/02/2009 5:13:26 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: Smokin' Joe

You said — Cast doubt on the man, cast doubt on his policy.

I can understand that part of it, as long as the people, themselves (who are doing this) understand that there is *no legal requirement* for a candidate to produce his birth certificate...

*If* — they understand that, and if they know that this is nothing more the “political persuasion” and it cannot be enforced by law — then I have no problem with political persuasion. The problem I see here, is when people confuse “political persuasion” for “legal demands* — and think that just because they “ask for it” — that the person *must* give it to them.

No..., he doesn’t have to give it to them, and as long as it continues this way — they will be “asking” for years (until the end of his term of office) and he will be refusing for years... and nothing more will happen. As long as they understand that part of it — then it’s fine for them to continue asking.

HOWEVER, I prefer to get some *legal action* going... LOL...

And thus, that’s why I say that if one wants to see the birth certificate that the only way to do it, is for a state to pass a law which *legally requires* the candidate to show his birth certificate or else he cannot be on the ballot...


489 posted on 08/02/2009 9:36:08 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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