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NOT AGAIN, RUDY (serial ditherer doesn't want to be a 3-time loser?)
NY POST ^ | 8/1/09 | EDITORIAL

Posted on 08/01/2009 10:05:40 AM PDT by Liz

Rudy continues to play coy about challenging Gov. Paterson. So what's keeping him from making up his mind? "NY is in pretty bad shape. If I thought I could make a real difference," he told a Crain's NY breakfast, "I would do it." Two terms as mayor and more than three decades in the public eye, and he still doesn't know whether he can make a difference? The election is 15 months away. But Giuliani other candidates biding their time waiting for Rudy to make up his mind would need every bit of that time to run an effective race..... Sort of like 2000, when Rudy's dithering left Rick Lazio pulverized by Hillary. Giuliani forgets the lesson of his ill-fated 2008 presidential run (longshot though it was).........he owes it to the voters, not to mention his party, to make a decision now: Either take the plunge -- or take a pass...............

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: gds; ihaterudy; ny2010; paterson; rds; rudy; rudyisadoodoohead
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To: kabar
And who is?

I'm sure there's someone in the legislature or a rich conservative businessman who can revive NY. Roger Ailes? He ran Rudy's Mayoral campaign in 1989.

Rudy still has the drive and energy to reverse what has happened to the Empire State.

Axelrod's goons will destroy Rudy.

He is the right man at the right time for the job. Let’s hope he decides to take on the challenge.

He was the right man at 2002 when he was still basking in the aftermath of 9/11. Plus he has health concerns. Sorry I disagree but of course concedes he'd be a huge improvement over Paterson.

41 posted on 08/01/2009 3:46:37 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Reagan Man

most of what you say is true and he is still the best you can do in NY....and he is still head and shoulders ahead of Paterson...or ‘putzhead’ Schumer or Guillebrand...


42 posted on 08/01/2009 4:04:39 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

Liberal Dem vs liberal Pub. The “best”?

A zebra can’t change its stripes.

A conservative should never vote for a liberal.


43 posted on 08/01/2009 4:13:58 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: kabar

“I will take Rudy over any Dem anytime.”

That’s like saying you would take plague over cholera. Dead is dead.

If you can’t trust a man in the bedroom, you can’t trust him anywhere.


44 posted on 08/01/2009 4:28:36 PM PDT by dsc (The "t" in the word "often" is silent.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I'm sure there's someone in the legislature or a rich conservative businessman who can revive NY. Roger Ailes? He ran Rudy's Mayoral campaign in 1989.

Have you ever lived in NY? Rudy is the man. He would be the strongest GOP candidate by far. Why don't you straighten things out in WI with its two liberal senators and Dem governor?

Axelrod's goons will destroy Rudy.

You don't have clue.

He was the right man at 2002 when he was still basking in the aftermath of 9/11. Plus he has health concerns. Sorry I disagree but of course concedes he'd be a huge improvement over Paterson.

Yeah, health concerns like Kerry and Dodd. Rudy is still very popular in NY. And becoming more so with the likes of Patterson and Bloomberg running things.

45 posted on 08/01/2009 4:51:23 PM PDT by kabar
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To: dsc
Give me a break. We are talking about running for Governor not gaining access to a monastery. Rudy did a fantastic job turning NYC around and he would do the same thing for the state.

The cheese head and the potato head commenting on Rudy's fitiness for office. Neither one of you has a clue. Get a life.

46 posted on 08/01/2009 4:57:03 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

“We are talking about running for Governor not gaining access to a monastery.”

Doesn’t matter. If a man is a dirty, rotten scoundrel in the bedroom, he’s a dirty, rotten scoundrel everywhere.

As for the fantastic job he did, just about anybody who posts on FR could have done much, much better — and would have.

But then, as Napoleon noted, ability counts for but little without opportunity. Sadly, in America today, the scumbag king-makers — from both the Stupid Party and the Evil Party — do their best to prevent anyone except fellow scumbags from gaining high office.


47 posted on 08/01/2009 5:17:52 PM PDT by dsc (The "t" in the word "often" is silent.)
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To: dsc
As for the fantastic job he did, just about anybody who posts on FR could have done much, much better — and would have.

Discussion over. You are a lunatic.

48 posted on 08/01/2009 5:33:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Reagan Man
Liberal Dem vs liberal Pub. The “best”?

A zebra can’t change its stripes.

A conservative should never vote for a liberal.

so it was YOU who didn't vote for McCain and caused the worst president in the history of the republic to be elected....OK...just needed to know who to blame....

49 posted on 08/01/2009 5:58:27 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: kabar
Have you ever lived in NY?

No, thank God.

Rudy is the man.

Don't you mean woman? ROFL

He would be the strongest GOP candidate by far.

Only if he survives the liberal media bringing up his corruption ties and infidelity.

Why don't you straighten things out in WI with its two liberal senators and Dem governor?

We are. Kohl may step down in 2012 and Feingold is in trouble next year. We have a fine Congressman in Ryan, and Governor Doyle is very unpopular here, facing a challenge against a conservative who is Milwaukee's County Executive.

You don't have clue.

No, you don't. Obama's media will destroy Rudy and conservatives aren't going to play the lesser of two evils anymore which will result in a Rudy loss even if he miraculously wins the primaries.

Yeah, health concerns like Kerry and Dodd.

Kerry and Dodd are Democrats which means they get a pass. Liberals will make Rudy's bout with cancer an issue.

Rudy is still very popular in NY.

Maybe among the cocktail circuit that frequent Gracie's Mansion parties, but what about the people?

And becoming more so with the likes of Patterson and Bloomberg running things.

He is not a fiscal conservative in terms of addressing the structural and underlying problems NY state has. All he's going to do is slow the pace of socialism down some like RINOLD did in California and inevitably get blamed for future problems.

50 posted on 08/01/2009 6:06:05 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: kabar
The cheese head

Your state nickname is an anachronism. "Empire State?" Give me a break.

51 posted on 08/01/2009 6:07:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Vaquero

Ha ha ha...

Better eat that red herring, its starting to smell bad.


52 posted on 08/01/2009 6:40:41 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: presidio9

I remember the culture wars on FR in approx. early summer 2007 in which a number of posters got banished from FR for pro-Rudy posts. That taught me to make bland comments like bttt in my posts to stay on the safe side.


53 posted on 08/01/2009 7:18:38 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Color me red, white and blue - I attended a tea party on July 4th.)
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To: Ciexyz
I remember the culture wars on FR in approx. early summer 2007 in which a number of posters got banished from FR for pro-Rudy posts. That taught me to make bland comments like bttt in my posts to stay on the safe side.

I'll risk getting banned then and go one step further: On foreign policy issues, we couldn't possibly have a better president right now (or a more worthy successor to George Bush) than Rudy. Not Thompson, not McCain, not Gingrich, and oh God not Sarah Palin. I'd take Cheneny over Rudy, but he wasn't an option. Before he was a career politician, Rudy Guiliani was an Italian American putting mobsters away for the federal government. Think that takes balls?

A president's primary influence on social issues is in judicial appointments. I think Rudy would have suprised a lot of people there. He very well might have appointed Alito. He would not have appointed anybody like Sonya Sotomayor.

54 posted on 08/01/2009 11:07:32 PM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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To: kabar

“You are a lunatic.”

Well, that’s about what one would expect from a person who thinks an intellectually mediocre moral leper is “fantastic.”


55 posted on 08/02/2009 1:10:46 AM PDT by dsc (The "t" in the word "often" is silent.)
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To: Reagan Man
Ha ha ha...

Better eat that red herring, its starting to smell bad.

so it was you that caused Obama to be president...that's OK, just want to know who would rather ‘cut off their nose to spite their face’...(that is if you need to rely on idioms to cover your tracks ) and pretend that causeing zer0bamas election is not part of the same problem...

56 posted on 08/02/2009 5:13:04 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
You're imagination is running wild. With Palin on the ticket, McCain was tolerable. Being pro-life and pro-gun didn't hurt him either. Then again, a red herring is still, a red herring.

Giuliani remains a life long liberal and deserves nothing from conservatives. Ditto for Romney. Unlike the void between your ears, the space between between a libDem and a libPub is minimal, if even measurable.

57 posted on 08/02/2009 9:43:25 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
I would never ever vote for Romney or Giulliani in the primaries...

the person running for pres on the Dhimmicrat side will determine who I vote for in the general election.

if it is zer0bama vs any of the above...I hold my nose (not for the smell of the red herring but the smell of the RINO dung) and vote against zer0bama....I have no other choice than to pick either one of these socialist liberals (with some minor conservative tendencies), than an avowed Marxist of the stripe of Stalin, Castro, Chavez, Ortega et al.

58 posted on 08/02/2009 9:50:18 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
>>>>>>I would never ever vote for Romney or Giulliani in the primaries...

On the one hand... on the other hand... right!

So under certain circumstances Giuliani and Romney are okay by you. Candidates who support big government, Roe v Wade, abortion rights, amnesty, gun control and special rights for homos gets your vote. Now we know.

59 posted on 08/02/2009 10:00:08 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

no they dont get my vote....I vote against the worst....

because a zer0bama type Dhimmicrat, supports big government, Roe v Wade, abortion rights, amnesty, gun control and special rights for homos so much more, than the average RINO as to make the choice for me....

but then you would stay home...or vote for a third party candidate to make sure zer0bama gets a 2nd (and lookout...a 3rd) term.

I will do all I can to make sure that the choice is not one of the RINOs we speak of....I believe Palin should be the #1 choice....

I will vote against zer0bama no matter who the republican is.......


60 posted on 08/02/2009 10:20:04 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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