Had a sign similar to this one been hanging
on the White House front door it just
may have scared him off.
The After-Birthers are scared.
1. He, in fact, is not a citizen of the US and therefore not eligible to be President.
2. He is so arrogant and narcissistic as to believe he is above scrutiny. Therefore, he shouldn’t have to prove to anyone his eligibility (messianic complex)
3. A combination of all the above
Gee Obama, shouldn’t that be 100%?
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The story line here is that the Daily Kos paid for this poll. Daily Kos is a scum sucking left wing moon bat site . . so, consider what it means to them to fork over the cash to pay for this poll. Are they worried?
Executive Order 13489 signed by Obama.
Have they seen the original Birth Certificate, and if so, why didn't they show it to me?
It's like those who say Obama is some sort of Genius. Have they seen his College Grades, his Transcripts or his writings in the Harvard Law Review? If they have, why don't they show them to me?
I know they thought President Bush was an idiot. You know, one of those MBA guys who had better College Grades that Al Gore and John Kerry.
Wasn't George Bush just some idiot that the Air National Guard trained to fly a multimillion dollar single seat Jet Fighter that was known as a Widow Maker?
I’ve gotten taller!
It isn’t just his long form birth cert. He has hidden everything about his past.
QUESTION: Do you believe that America and Africa were once part of the same continent?
YES NO NOT SURE ALL 42 26 32 MEN 41 29 30 WOMEN 43 23 34 DEM 51 16 33 REP 24 47 29 IND 44 23 33 OTH/REF 42 25 33 NON VOTERS 46 22 32 WHITE 35 30 35 BLACK 63 13 24 LATINO 55 19 26 OTHER/REF 56 19 25 18-29 48 20 32 30-44 40 28 32 45-59 43 24 33 60+ 39 30 31 NORTHEAST 50 18 32 SOUTH 32 37 31 MIDWEST 46 22 32 WEST 43 24 33
I thought plate tectonics was geology, not politics.
As far as birthers....
Never has it been more true that all publicity is good publicity. I love the rage of the chattering classes and the talking heads. The ones too cowardly to demand what common sense dictates. The Obama birh certificate
“Trust but verify” -— Ronald Reagan about the Soviets
Lou Dobbs is correct. Show it and be done with it.
Had a sign similar to this one been hanging
on the White House front door it just
may have scared him off.
28 percent answered they believe Obama was born outside the U.S.
Typical conservatives percentage. That seems about right. That is why we need the mushy moderates to win elections. It surprises me that we only have about 28 percent true conseratives in this country but that is the way it is.
People think that the key is “Place of birth”, but it is the doctor's signature-—or LACK OF ONE——that is the key that will tell us if Obama was or was not born in Hawaii.
Hawaii official Dr. Fukino recently publicly said that she has personally seen Obama’s birth certificate and that it says that Obama is an American citizen.
But what did Dr. Fukino really see?
I bet that this is what she saw: She looked at Obama’s long form birth certificate and saw “Honolulu” in the space for “Place of birth.”
She then publicly announced that Obama was born in the United States.
But Dr. Fukino did NOT tell us about the really important information on the birth certificate that we want very much to see:
1. Is there a doctor's name and signature?
2. Is there a hospital name?
3. Is the information on the birth certificate written or typed?
Please understand this: Way back in 1961, as I understand it, a parent in Hawaii could write in the name of the "place of birth" and other information if a baby was NOT born in a hospital.
But signing a doctor's name when the person was not a doctor could put a person in trouble with the authorities.
So, I think that if Obama’s mother filled out the birth certificate in 1961 , she left the doctor's name and the hospital name blank, because if a baby was NOT born in a hospital and a medical person was not present, then it was, as I understand it, legally alright to leave the spaces blank.
To me, the main reason that Obama is fighting so hard to keep the public from examining his 1961 long form birth certificate is this: THE DOCTOR NAME AND HOSPITAL NAME ARE MISSING.
IMPORTANT: As I see it, one problem that we who live in modern, high tech 2009 have in analyzing the Obama birth certificate mess is this: We view Obama’s birth through the eyes of a high tech society in 2009 instead of looking at it through the eyes of people living in 1961 Hawaii.
For instance, like in many states, I think that many babies born in 1961 Hawaii were NOT born in a hospital, especially babies born among the large immigrant population that was working in the pineapple fields scattered all over the many islands of Hawaii.
Let's try to imagine the Hawaii social environment from 1950 to 1970:
1. There was a large legal and illegal immigration group from places like China, Japan, and the Philippines who were recruited by politically powerful Hawaii plantation owners to work in the pineapple fields. Remember, this was a long time before the recent 9-11 World Trade Center terrorist attacks, so United States immigration rules were pretty lax, especially in Hawaii where pineapple field workers were needed all the time.
2. 1961--- The Mexico-United States border: How lax was the U.S. immigration policy in 1961? In 1961, Mexico-United States border crossing laws were very lax an people easily moved back and forth across the Mexico-United States border. The issue of Mexican illegal immigration was practically NO issue at all like the way illegal immigration from Mexico is a tremendous and heated issue today in 2009.
3. So, you can imagine how much more lax immigration laws were during 1950-1970 in the far away U.S. terrority of Hawaii in the middle of the Pacific Ocean than it is today, 2009.
As long as the flood of Asian immigrants into Hawaii did not spill over into the rest of the United States on the mainland,Washington lawmakers——lawmakers who had NO access to such modern wonders like CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS, the internet, and the World Wide Web—— basically let Hawaii officials take care of its own immigration programs.
4. Also, China and Japan were not the great economic powers that they are today. The people were desperate to find any type of work anywhere they could, at home or abroad.
5. So, the Chinese and Japanese governments probably encouraged immigrants to leave for Hawaii-—or anywhere-— to find work, and they were not going to spend valuable time and energy to give passports to all these immigrants,especially when these governments knew that most of these immigrants would never return to China and Japan once they reached Hawaii.
6. I can also imagine that government officials in China, Japan, and the Philippines said something like this to themselves: Let rich United States pineapple plantation owners worry about the paperwork on their end for these mostly uneducated workers, because it is now the United States government problem.
7. NOTE: “Hawaii” by the great American author James Michener is a magnificent book for the average person who wants to learn about the history of Hawaii. Myself, I had a hard time putting the book down because it was so well written and exciting.
8. It is a big book, so plan to put aside a few days to read it.
9. I am not from Hawaii or live there.
10. But I have had a long interest in Hawaii, because I had a deep interest in Father Damien
who traveled from Europe to work with lepers on Molokai, the Hawaiian island where lepers were forceably sent to live and somehow care for themselves.
11. I think that Father Damien is very close to being declared a saint in the Catholic Church.
12. Moving on, let's try to picture Hawaii in 1961 when Obama was born:
a. Hawaii is in the middle of a difficult but exciting transition from being a far away territory in the middle of the Pacific Ocean to becoming a state in The United States of America.
b. At the same time, Hawaii has to find a way to quickly integrate Chinese, Japanese, and Filipino legal and illegal immigrants into legal citizens of the United States, many of whom did not have documents like a passport when they entered Hawaii before 1961, and many of whom were uneducated and could barely speak English.
c. So, how is a recent new state in The United States of America going to integrate all these legal and illegal immigrants in the United States of America, many of whom have wives and babies?
d. One thing that Hawaii did is this: It allowed a parent who had a baby that was NOT born in a hospital to simply fill out a birth certificate and mail it in.
Yes, mail it in. The parent did not even have to show up at a state office to verify what was on the birth certificate.
e. Did a Hawaii official visit the parent's home to verify that the information on the birth certificate was correct? There is no evidence that a Hawaii official did a followup by visiting the parent's home.
f. Rather, the procedure seemed to be that a Hawaii clerk simply stamped the birth certificate as alright and that was that.
g. Remember, Hawaii is made up of several islands that stretch over many miles in the Pacific Ocean, so having government clerks running around all those islands and checking the birth certificates of babies born to all those legal and illegal immigrants from Asia in the middle of Hawaii's 1961 frantic transition from a territory to a new state of the United States of America, well, it probably wasn't worth it.
h. So Hawaii said this: It was alright to have a parent simply mail in the birth certificate and be done with it, if the child was NOT born in a hospital. Obviously, such a system was ripe for abuse.
i. Again, remember that this time period of 1950-1970 was a long way from the recent 9-11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, so Hawaii officials would have no reason to think about terrorist attacks from illegal immigrants way back in 1961.
13. Now, into this very difficult but exciting time in Hawaii's history as described above, we have Barack Obama’s birth in 1961.
14. Did Obama’s mother take advantage of Hawaii's lax birth registration policies in 1961 and mail in Obama’s birth certificate, because Obama was NOT born in a Hawaii hospital? We don't know.
15. But if she did mail in Obama’s birth certificate, she probably did not fill in the DOCTOR'S SIGNATURE or the HOSPITAL NAME, because she probably didn't want to go to jail for forgery if somehow a Hawaii official checked the information on the Obama long form birth certificate.
16. So, while Obama’s mother could easily fill in “Honolulu” for “place of birth” with no problem, I think that she left the doctor's signature blank, and then she mailed in Obama’s birth certificate.
17. My point is this: We must put pressure on Hawaii officials like Dr. Fukino, Obama himself, and Obama spokesmen like press secretary Gibbs to answer this key question: “Is there a doctor's signature and a hospital name on Obama’s long form birth certificate?”
18. If Dr. Fukino says that there is a doctor's signature and a hospital name on Obama’s long form birth certificate, then we should still demand to see the 1961 long form birth certificate in order to prove to ourselves that other items on the long form birth certificate are correct.
19. However, if there is NO doctor signature or hospital name, then we know that Obama was NOT born in a Hawaii hospital, and Obama and Hawaii officials, like Dr. Fukino, have a lot of explaining to do.
I just love hearing the incessant anti-birther war drums in the distance, of course there is absolutely no connection with Sarah Palin, she would never be interested in getting involved with trying to get birther news exposed to the public, since she has all the free time in the world I would say she is off either halibut fishing or getting ready for caribou hunting season.
Sarah Palin, a birther? a secret birther?, thats ridiculous.
I didn't see "insisted it was so" on the poll. Do we have a little editorializing here?