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Obama’s Science Adviser Called for ‘Zero Economic Growth’
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Posted on 07/31/2009 7:39:57 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obama’s Science Adviser Called for ‘Zero Economic Growth’ Friday, July 31, 2009 By Christopher Neefus

(CNSNews.com) – At a time when it was popular among environmentalists to talk about capping pollutants, John Holdren was writing about placing “caps” on the U.S. economy itself--and working toward “zero economic growth.”

Holdren, who is now President Obama’s top adviser on science and technology policy, wrote in the 1970s that it would be “entirely logical” to cap the Gross National Product--the total productivity of the American economy.

“It is by now abundantly clear that the GNP cannot grow forever. Why should it?” Holdren asked in a 1977 college science textbook he co-wrote with Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich, titled “Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment.”

“Why should we not strive for zero economic growth (ZEG) as well as zero population growth?”

The pertinent chapter, “Changing American Institutions,” discusses what the authors perceived as problems in America’s social mores, government, and economic system, which they say makes it “the leader in humanity’s reckless exploitation of Earth.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; holdren
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1 posted on 07/31/2009 7:39:57 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

That would be a vast improvement over Obama’s economy.


2 posted on 07/31/2009 7:43:16 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

Related...

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/07/31/did-jesus-give-us-the-name-of-the-antichrist/


3 posted on 07/31/2009 7:45:45 AM PDT by gunnyg (Just Plain Dick)
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To: Sub-Driver

What are the chances of getting Environmentalism listed as psychiatric disorder?


4 posted on 07/31/2009 7:45:51 AM PDT by Marty62
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To: Sub-Driver
What will NEVER be said by any of the statists in the -11bama admin: Capping Government growth. It violates their primary goal.

By capping the economy, and growing the government, there is only one merging point: 100% control by government of the economy (albeit in an asymptotic way)

5 posted on 07/31/2009 7:46:57 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’ve thought of cap-and-trade as a direct tax on productivity. This guy makes me think so all the more.


6 posted on 07/31/2009 7:47:12 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: pissant
That would be a vast improvement over Obama’s economy.

LOL, I was just about to post the same thing. Zero economic growth is up from what Obama is currently doing to the economy. Even the liberals I work with are starting to turn on Obama and they are starting to see all the predictions I had made about him come true.

7 posted on 07/31/2009 7:47:24 AM PDT by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: Sub-Driver; All

Directive 10-289.


8 posted on 07/31/2009 7:48:19 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Sub-Driver

Would that exclude muslims who are currently reproducing like rabbits?


9 posted on 07/31/2009 7:50:08 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Sub-Driver

These are the screwballs who are now in power.

God help us.


10 posted on 07/31/2009 7:51:23 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Impeach the sumbeech)
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To: Marty62

HUMMMM...
Does this fit Zero?
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11 posted on 07/31/2009 7:52:07 AM PDT by Marty62
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To: highlander_UW

FOOOLS. Zero growth as a target? Have they thought about their children OR anything about the future?

And these are his advisers?

We are Screwed, soooo screwed.


12 posted on 07/31/2009 7:52:51 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: Sub-Driver

Whack jobs working for a supreme whack job. God save us.


13 posted on 07/31/2009 7:53:06 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: pissant

“That would be a vast improvement over Obama’s economy.”

Witty. I detect that right wingers have reacquired their ability to ridicule.

I know that I have been very morose and angry up until recently. However, lately, I find that the Kenyan has stimulated a huge growth in pointed zingers. So, he’s not all bad.


14 posted on 07/31/2009 7:55:03 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: Sub-Driver
John Holdren was writing about placing “caps” on the U.S. economy itself--and working toward “zero economic growth.”

“It is by now abundantly clear that the GNP cannot grow forever. Why should it?” Holdren asked in a 1977 college science textbook he co-wrote with Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich, titled “Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment.”

The pertinent chapter, “Changing American Institutions,” discusses what the authors perceived as problems in America’s social mores, government, and economic system, which they say makes it “the leader in humanity’s reckless exploitation of Earth.”

The Rand Institute should have sued this moron for plagiarism! In "Atlas Shrugged," the government decides (and Jim Taggart agrees) that the way to stabilize the economy (and society) is to place limits on production and consumption, requiring everyone to purchase what they did the previous year, and disallowing the invention or improvement of any goods or services, and limiting the production of those goods to the production levels of the previous year. This includes books and music as well!

Mark

15 posted on 07/31/2009 7:57:23 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: highlander_UW

I am seeing the same as you with liberals I know. They are all jumping off the sinking ship.


16 posted on 07/31/2009 8:00:22 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Sub-Driver

***Obama’s Science Adviser Called for ‘Zero Economic Growth’***

Anyone remember these blasts from the past about 1970?

ZPG (Zero Popultion Growth)

ZERO DEFECTS!

Now we got ZEG!


17 posted on 07/31/2009 8:03:36 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Sub-Driver

Shades of “Everything that can be invented has been invented.”


18 posted on 07/31/2009 8:31:00 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (if the government makes trading a used car this hard how are they going to handle a doctor visit?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
:***Obama’s Science Adviser Called for ‘Zero Economic Growth’*** Anyone remember these blasts from the past about 1970? ZPG (Zero Popultion Growth) ZERO DEFECTS! Now we got ZEG!

That's why one of 0bama's nicknames is ZERO.

19 posted on 07/31/2009 8:32:36 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan
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To: NonValueAdded
And a follow-up:
In his 1843 report to Congress, the then commissioner of the Patent Office, Henry L. Ellsworth, included the following comment: "The advancement of the arts, from year to year, taxes our credulity and seems to presage the arrival of that period when human improvement must end."
Imagine if they listened to Henry way back when.

source

20 posted on 07/31/2009 8:36:20 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (if the government makes trading a used car this hard how are they going to handle a doctor visit?)
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