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To: 70times7
but it hinges entirely on the questioning of the CinC's legitimacy being reasonable.

Well, yes. But I think we've got to look at the situation a few different ways. One, what would an officer normally be expected to do if given an order that was questionable? What I mean is- not one that is clearly illegal, but one that could be construed as illegal, maybe. What does the officer do in that situation. And to be honest, I don't know. I was enlisted. We are both governed by the UCMJ but an enlisted soldier isn't expected to have 'special knowledge' about questions of legality. There are certain categories of orders (Geneva Convention issues) that are very serious and we are given classes for those so we know for sure. But what an officer is expected to do in a case where it is not clear is not so easy to divine.

I posit that it is not reasonable to question the legality of the order because the normal procedure for Obama becoming CinC has been observed. I don't believe there's ever been an instance where the CinC has been accused of not being legit. SP4 New accused Clinton of giving him an illegal order (and many conservatives supported him) but he wasn't questioning the authority of Clinton to give him the order.

I just... We're fighting. If our military were sitting in garrison at the moment twiddling their thumbs- it would still be a very serious issue. But the order Cook refuses to obey- the order itself- is perfectly reasonable and any CinC would give him that order. What does greater harm, for him to have to follow the order with his personal suspicions about the CinC's legitimacy or to have the military deciding to not follow orders during a time of war? I think a soldier has a very difficult job on any given day. It isn't made any easier when civilians are egging him on to disobey orders. I think this matter should be settled entirely in the civilian frame of reference.

I'm with you though- I want it settled.

98 posted on 07/29/2009 11:45:31 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
I agree with your reasoning, but instead I disagree with your statement that "that it is not reasonable to question the legality of the order because the normal procedure for Obama becoming CinC has been observed."

There is a great deal of reason to believe the electoral college and other government entities and officials failed in its/their responsibility to ensure Obama is legally a natural born citizen if the US. That is a very specific definition.

But let us be realistic. The die-hard liberals don't care if Obama meets that standard. I would say 25 to 33% would think that the right has again managed to get the SCOTUS do do their evil will if the messaiah is removed. And who knows? If he get s the boot it may pave the way for a constitutional change that puts the likes of the Gubinator in the white house. Then all of Obamas policies can continue w/ rino backing.

As for me, I want this IV drip of poison out of America's arm and I am fine with what would be perceived as a loop hole getting it done.

I think Cook may believe he is fulfilling his oath to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. We just need to figure out which kind of enemy Obama is first.

115 posted on 07/30/2009 12:06:17 AM PDT by 70times7 (What is Obama's hurry? Is he anxious to get to his cigarette? America wants some foreplay first.)
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