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To: ClimateDepot.com

Ha ha, the hard scientists and engineers don’t tend to tolerate hysterical unscientific bullcrap.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 5:37:47 PM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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bttt


3 posted on 07/29/2009 5:39:22 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: thecabal
“Ha ha, the hard scientists and engineers don’t tend to tolerate hysterical unscientific bullcrap.”

Unless they are funded by pro climate change grant money.
Then they put out, just like a hooker for pay.

19 posted on 07/29/2009 6:06:06 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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FINALLY the worm has turned.

I have worked on my fellow scientists (physicists, math, computer, astronomy mostly) for the last decade and more, asking them to stop accepting the statements of the IPCC and the politicians and to look into the science themselves. It is not hard to understand. It is just that they couldn’t see the reason to spend their time there.

All of them have had experience (much of it bad) with computer models and understand the limitations. All have experience with major revisions of theories that were found wanting after investigation. All have had experience with the hard lessons of science that extrapolations are seldom accurate.

Yet, most of them simply accepted the climate researchers models were just fine, and they didn’t really understand the lack of accuracy of the temperature records, either. Now that the models are being shown to be wanting, and the problems with the surface and ocean temperature measurements are being detailed more and more, it is becoming obvious to many of these folks that their blind acceptance was not intellectually honest.

As I’ve said to many, “the IPCC accepts an amplification factor for CO2 that they have no honest explanation for, however they refuse to accept a similar amplification factor for the effect of changing solar radiation.” Now that Solanki has been able to get the world’s ear with the cosmic ray hypothesis as a possible amplifier, many are willing to listen. They should have similarly paid heed to the fact that clouds and aerosols are not at all understood.

I am breathing a sigh of relief right now: it is really brinksmanship, but there may be a possibility that honest scientists will come to America’s rescue in time.

Major thanks is due to all the incredible scientists who have persisted in the face of such horrible abuse of the scientific method over the last two decades.

Let’s hope this gets through the thick skulls of the politicians in time.


40 posted on 07/29/2009 10:26:01 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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William Tolley: "I take great offense that Baum would use Chemical and Engineering News, for which I pay dearly each year in membership dues, to purvey his personal views and so glibly ignore contrary information and scold those of us who honestly find these views to be a hoax."

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49 posted on 07/30/2009 6:58:30 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: thecabal
hard scientists and engineers don’t tend to tolerate hysterical unscientific bullcrap.

Hear, hear!

And yes, I are one.

66 posted on 07/31/2009 8:07:22 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Summer '09)
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