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Obama’s Science Czar: Babies Aren’t Human Until They’ve Been Socialized
Stop the ACLU ^ | 29 July 09 | Van Helsing

Posted on 07/29/2009 1:27:12 PM PDT by Jay777

A large part of the horror of abortion lies in the monstrous presumption of liberals declaring that human life begins not at conception, but whenever they say it does. Maybe that’s six weeks, maybe six months. Maybe it’s years. Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren (the guy who wanted to put a sterilizing agent in our drinking water) gives us an idea of how slippery this slope can get. From his book Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions, via Patterico’s Pontifications:

The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being. We knew that human fetuses aren’t human, according to liberal ideology. Now we learn that they remain nonhuman even after they are born, until such a time as priests of The State like Holdren deem them to have been sufficiently socialized.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoscience; holdren; johnholdren
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To: melsec

Of course not. What she did was in poor taste but since Mom and child had not really gotten to know one another, its ok.


41 posted on 07/29/2009 1:58:18 PM PDT by MarkT
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To: Jay777

So according to this pathetic excuse for a presidential administration, anyone who does not exhibit the proper “social” traits is an UNTERMENSCH.

These bastards are sounding more and more like Nazis everyday.


42 posted on 07/29/2009 2:00:28 PM PDT by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Tell me about it.
If anyone with an “R” as their affiliation said something like this, the media would be screaming “Hitler” at the top of their lungs.
A “D” affiliated experten, not a peep.
Crickets chirp in the emptiness.
43 posted on 07/29/2009 2:02:29 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Jay777

So babies (and non-socialists) are sub-human?


44 posted on 07/29/2009 2:03:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: BertWheeler

Wow! That is stunning, that she would admit it (altho I really think it’s why MOST libs are for abortion).


45 posted on 07/29/2009 2:04:15 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea

Yeah, it’s really something. I always suspected legalized abortion was a stepping stone to euthanasia and then even forced sterilization but I never really expected a senior person to openly say so. Google Ruth Bader Ginsburg or search for her here. It’s amazing that no one has picked this up.


46 posted on 07/29/2009 2:05:59 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: freespirited; BertWheeler
Wow! Here is the quote:

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.

Disgusting.

47 posted on 07/29/2009 2:10:23 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Jay777
Obama’s Science Czar: Babies Aren’t Human Until They’ve Been Socialized

That would be sometime in their twenties, I think. I think I agree with that. He must know some of my kinfolk.

48 posted on 07/29/2009 2:10:31 PM PDT by marron
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To: melsec

I heard someone say that this freak thinks a baby should be able to be aborted up until it’s two years old. He advocates killing any person who doesn’t comprehend the meaning of tomorrow. I’m sure he only applies these measures toward humans, not animals. He’s the moron who will make it possible for our animals and livestock to take us to court and sue us.


49 posted on 07/29/2009 2:11:51 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Going To Grammar School Overseas Counts As Foreign Policy Experience If You're A Democrat)
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To: BertWheeler

Someone needs to document EVERYTHING like this that these disgusting bastards have said from the time they came into power up until election time. When it comes time for the midterm elections in 2010 the republicans need to run a national Congressional campaign using the words of these sickos against them and make the election a referendum on each and every single democrat in office. These statements cannot be ignored.


50 posted on 07/29/2009 2:12:30 PM PDT by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: marron

And from the science czar’s own comments, I doubt that he has been properly socialized.


51 posted on 07/29/2009 2:13:28 PM PDT by madinmadtown (Nuclear...better to mispronounce it, than not understand it.)
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To: frankiep

And what I’m wondering is, did the interviewer at the NYT Magazine, some dimwit, just sit there and say “That’s really interesting.”

Who are the “undesirables” in Justice Ginsburg’s opinion? Isn’t that the way Hitler thought?


52 posted on 07/29/2009 2:14:54 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: BertWheeler

Of course, she is bullet proof to say whatever she likes. Lifetime term and all.


53 posted on 07/29/2009 2:47:41 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Jay777
Posting the second paragraph with a little different HTML so it is clearer:

From his book Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions, via Patterico’s Pontifications:

The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being.

We knew that human fetuses aren’t human, according to liberal ideology. Now we learn that they remain nonhuman even after they are born, until such a time as priests of The State like Holdren deem them to have been sufficiently socialized.

[end 2nd paragraph]

I remember reading many years ago about a man, a doctor I believe who's name we would all be familar with.

He stated that after birth that a child should be evaluated for a couple of years to see if he/she was good enought to continue to live.

It's like extending abortion being allowed from after nine months gestation to 2 years and 9 months.

This looks like the same mindset.

54 posted on 07/29/2009 2:53:09 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Jay777

So children born with severe mental conditions are never human?


55 posted on 07/29/2009 2:56:20 PM PDT by BoxerDawgs (Land of the free . . . because of the brave!)
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To: Jay777

Well we can joke about this all through the threads.....

But, this proves we are confronted with pure evil in Obama.

Any president that would allow a man such as this anywhere near his office, much less in his administration, is evil himself. This proves it.

I don’t care what the liberal community choses to believe about a fetus. They are evil and want the right to kill others children.

I am not so dumb as to accept their definition of a person no matter how many “authorities” claim it is true. It is evil, it is a lie, it is satanic. How in the world could a man thinking like that win a government position? No way unless the government wishes to have the power to abort and kill the “unwanted” babies. Changing the definition of personhood is their means to sway opinions.

Hitler is on the move in America and it is satanic.

Get hold of your minds to keep your sanity. No matter what they bring us - God will win in the end and we will win as long as we stay faithful to God.

Choose who you will follow - God - or Satan.


56 posted on 07/29/2009 2:56:39 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Jay777
With this argument you aren't a person when you are sleeping or in a coma or catatonic state because you have near 0 high brain function and just have pure animal instincts.

Sadly I have heard this argument before and many people believe that certain disabilities disqualify you as a person.

57 posted on 07/29/2009 2:57:04 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Jay777

American Citizen: Obama Isn’t Legitimate Until His Real Birth Certificate Has Been Certified


58 posted on 07/29/2009 2:57:05 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree and think 25 to life would be appropriate.)
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To: melsec

A Dingo ate my baby!!!


59 posted on 07/29/2009 3:01:54 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Don’t forget ‘Logan’s Run’, too. You know....with this administration...we’ll eventually have implants that will tell them when we’ve reached a certain age so they can send out ‘The Sandman’.


60 posted on 07/29/2009 3:03:04 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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