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New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars
CBS CHICAGO ^ | Jul 29, 2009 | Mike Krauser

Posted on 07/29/2009 1:01:00 PM PDT by envisio

The Chicago Police Department has instituted a major change in policy regarding the use of deadly force.

Effective next Monday, police officers will be able to fire their guns under circumstances where they previously could not.

The new policy, from police Supt. Jody Weis and confirmed by WBBM Newsradio 780 Wednesday morning, allows police officers to shoot at fleeing vehicles if the driver or passengers are suspected of committing a felony.

The old policy allowed officers only to shoot at vehicles that pose a threat to them or others, such as if the driver were trying to run down the officer.

But now, officers need not be under attack to open fire.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: banglist; cars; chicago; cops; leo
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I think it should be this way everywhere. Shoot them before they hurt innocent people.
1 posted on 07/29/2009 1:01:01 PM PDT by envisio
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To: envisio

What if there are innocent people in the car?


2 posted on 07/29/2009 1:02:21 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (It takes a viking to raze a village!)
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To: envisio

I see, so we could just eliminate those costly courts and let the police do the entire job. Great...


3 posted on 07/29/2009 1:02:39 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: envisio

They should also advertise it far and wide.

“You run from the police in a car, you will be shot at”


4 posted on 07/29/2009 1:03:15 PM PDT by envisio (95% of blacks voted for Hussein, but the whites are told to get past skin color.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

I am sure they would take that into consideration before shooting......


5 posted on 07/29/2009 1:04:19 PM PDT by envisio (95% of blacks voted for Hussein, but the whites are told to get past skin color.)
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To: envisio

“suspected of committing a felony”

WTF?
Double WTF for Chicago cops.

I hear gunshots near me and try to get the hell out of there, and a Chicago cop gets to start busting caps?

I hope they really define “suspected of committing a felony” better. The cop better WITNESS the felony, a VIOLENT FELONY, before resorting to the CPDs unusually low level of training and restraint.


6 posted on 07/29/2009 1:04:31 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: envisio

More than likely they will unload their magazines and miss. Hard to shoot under pressure.


7 posted on 07/29/2009 1:04:37 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: envisio
I think it should be this way everywhere. Shoot them before they hurt innocent people.

That's correct, piss on the Constitution.

This will be a field day for attorney payoffs by the tax payers.

8 posted on 07/29/2009 1:05:06 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: envisio
... allows police officers to shoot at fleeing vehicles if the driver or passengers are suspected of committing a felony ...

This will policy will be changed back, probably in less than a year.

9 posted on 07/29/2009 1:05:13 PM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: LongElegantLegs

So the ROE’s for the Chicago Police are now more lax than those for US forces in Baghdad?


10 posted on 07/29/2009 1:06:14 PM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: 556x45

Yep, thats right.

Done.


11 posted on 07/29/2009 1:06:46 PM PDT by envisio (95% of blacks voted for Hussein, but the whites are told to get past skin color.)
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To: envisio

I am a retired Illinois State Policeman. Whatever the new directive states, this action constitutes a use of deadly force, and therefore must be consistent with the SCOTUS ruling in Tennesee vs. Garner.

Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)[1], was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that under the Fourth Amendment, when a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, he or she may use deadly force only to prevent escape if the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others. IOW, it must involve MORE than the simple commision of a felony.


12 posted on 07/29/2009 1:07:00 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: org.whodat
I've been on the range with more than one CPD officer. Now if one comes in in uniform, I pack up my stuff and leave.

In my experience their safety habits are atrocious and their marksmanship skills even worse.

13 posted on 07/29/2009 1:07:29 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: envisio

How on earth would they know?


14 posted on 07/29/2009 1:07:49 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (It takes a viking to raze a village!)
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To: DMZFrank

Glad to hear that. Hope the Chicago PD trains to that.


15 posted on 07/29/2009 1:08:43 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Police are allowed to use deadly force on those who pose a threat to others. Speeding down the highway in a 4000lb car is posing a threat to others. Shoot him.
16 posted on 07/29/2009 1:09:14 PM PDT by envisio (95% of blacks voted for Hussein, but the whites are told to get past skin color.)
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To: envisio
"Use of unnecessary violence in the apprehension of the Blues Brothers has been approved.."


17 posted on 07/29/2009 1:09:24 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: envisio
They should never be able to do that in public.A car is a 4000 lb. missile with gasoline.How many people could that kill if the driver was knocked off?
18 posted on 07/29/2009 1:10:13 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: envisio

LOL.
Exactly what I was thinking.

And in CHICAGO, of all places.

I think it is more of an attempt to redefine the policy to meet CURRENT PRACTICES.


19 posted on 07/29/2009 1:11:05 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: DMZFrank

Thank you, sir.

If a man starts running with a chainsaw towards a pack of people, that would be grounds for deadly force.

Same thing for a man careening his car toward traffic.


20 posted on 07/29/2009 1:12:20 PM PDT by envisio (95% of blacks voted for Hussein, but the whites are told to get past skin color.)
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