Posted on 07/29/2009 9:34:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Big Jim? Reddest of red-state Republicans? A man who once said he wouldn’t mind if the Democrats held 70 seats in the Senate so long as the 30 GOP seats were occupied by small-government conservatives? That Jim DeMint?
An anti-Birther?
On Monday, however, the South Carolina Republican found himself defending Barack Obama from the fringier elements of his own political party: the conspiracy theorists who insist the president was not born in the United States.
“I may have disagreements with [the president] on issues,” DeMint told the Huffington Post. “But he is my president, he deserves our respect, and we need forget that nonsense …
“He is not only a citizen,” he added, “he is our president.”
Current status of DeMint’s Constitution-abiding “true conservative” credentials: Shaky. Fortunately for believers, there are more than a dozen other congressmen who now question the official story willing to pick up his slack. Something for discussion in the comments: What exactly is the theory about the Certificate of Live Birth that Obama has produced? It’s obviously based on some sort of original documentary information in Hawaii’s possession, be it a contemporaneous statement from the doctor who delivered him or affidavits from his parents and/or grandparents that he was born in Honolulu. Let’s say it’s the latter. What then? How exactly is evidence that’s accepted by a U.S. state as proof of birth somehow insufficient to qualify one for the presidency?
Update: I’m sure National Review’s “true conservative” credentials would be revoked for this editorial if not for the fact that they were revoked long ago for being snobby elitist east coast New York/Beltway cocktail-party attenders or whatever.
If one applies for a United States passport, the passport office will demand a birth certificate. It defines this as an official document bearing “your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.” The Hawaiian birth certificate President Obama has produced—the document is formally known as a “certificate of live birth”—bears that information. It has been inspected by reporters, and several state officials have confirmed that the information in permanent state records is identical to that on the president’s birth certificate—which is precisely what one expects, of course, since the state records are used to generate those documents when they are requested. In other words, what President Obama has produced is the “real” birth certificate of myth and lore. The director of Hawaii’s health department and the registrar of records each has personally verified that the information on Obama’s birth certificate is identical to that in the state’s records, the so-called vault copy. Given that fact, we are loath even to engage the fanciful notion that President Obama was born elsewhere, contrary to the information on his birth certificate, but we note for the record that his mother was a native of Kansas, whose residents have been citizens of the United States for a very long time, and whose children are citizens of the United States as well.
When will Republicans stop criticizing conservative grassroots energy???
Sorry Jim. He may be a citizen, as you say. But if he is not an NBC, then he isn’t your president or anyone’s president, he is an imposter.
Jim DeMint is a RINO. LOL.
I have no problem with Sen DeMint’s comments...
But this article is trying to turn conservatives against DeMint. The article is referring to “birthers” as fringe...DeMint is not doing that.
The problem here is the media....which, regardless of party...is drifting further left.
If the liberal elements of the GOP, and their minions in the liberal media...continue to drive away conservatives from the GOP....then don’t complain when the GOP loses elections because they believe in the myth that “being pro-illegal alien brings in Hispanic voters”
Why don’t you feck off!
THE "SO-CALLED VAULT COPY" IS THE ONLY DOCUMENT THAT CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS REAL AMERICANS CARE ABOUT. HAVE YOUR TRANSPARENT PRESIDENT RELEASE IT!!
Gee, I can’t disagree with the good Senator on anything? No politician alive reflects all of my views. That being said.
Hunter/DeMint 2012. Accept no substitutes.
It seems to me the GOP doesn’t want to win, it’s quite content to just a little less corrupt than the Dems and keep the scam going as is.
Change is the threat.
Don’t be surprised. Being a birther doesn’t make a person a conservative, nor vice versa.
Senator DeMint, I don't care what you believe about Obama. But do you believe in transparency?
Response:Nonsense! The office deserves respect but not necessarily the occupant. In spite of what some believe "The Divine One" is not a God or even a Godlet. In fact he is slowly proving himself a disaster of the first magnitude.
Exactly. Why give the blue-dress media an opportunity to twist your words to further their agenda?
I understand your sarcasm but it has ceased to be funny. These fools are embarrassing this site, and conservatives in general who are unfairly tied to their delusional idiocy.
The so-called birthers need to be shown the exit (from this site). They are turning FR into a carnival side show, and I wouldn't be surprised if many birthers actually are employed by a carnival or 'attractions' at one.
The National Review has a recent editorial that makes a persuasive argument that Obama was born in Hawaii. I find the birth announcement in two local papers at the time of his birth particularly persuasive.
Here is a link to the editorial:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTRjMTFhMzQxYmEzNjA2YWIwOTU4YWVjNzRmODE2NTI=
Next time you apply for a passport, bring in a newspaper article with your name in it. See how the federal government treats you. Perhaps they will suggest that you provide better ID than that.
Jim HAS to say this. If for some reason, zero truly is a NBC, then Jim and others will look like kooks. Also, until we are proven correct, there would be a backlash against Jim if he openly discusses his true thoughts on the matter.
Let Jim do his work as a legislator.
We need to do the dirty investigative.
And yet the Obamas did not live at the address on both announcements.
Also, why would Obama’s COLB be out of sequence with others born later in the same year?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2303017/posts?page=49#49
And in the wrong format?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2303017/posts?page=76#76
Exactly
Who the heck are you to make such a statement? All the allegeded “birthers” want to see is the real and verified birth certificate? You are the one that is making something out of it.
No one is embarassing this site but people like you who declare yourself to be the final word.
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