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To: LS

1) Yes. A certificate of Live Birth is hand filled out by the Parents and signed by a doctor has a number of different sections to fill out. a Certification of Live birth is a computer printo out attesting to the fact that there are original records on file in the dept of Vital statistics in Hawaii. Just RECENTLY, this MONTH Hawaii changed the name of the Certification of live birth (AKA short form) to CERTIFICATE of live birth, the SAME as the name of the LONG form that is hand filled out. It is speculated that they did this to Cover their asses.

20 Don’t know much about this.
3) Hawaii does NOT destroy any records, and though Okubo said for CNN that they did, then later said that they never have, they have not and do not. I have this directly from an employee in that office I am working with regarding my own COLB from Hawaii.
4)I don’t know
5) The director of the Hawai’ian department of Health. Alvin t. Onaka whose seal as registrar appears on the certificate of live birth that is on Factcheck, and on my own COLB. I believe that Linda Lingle the Governor of Hawaii has seen it as well. It is believed that there is more than one record, which would mean an amended Certificate, which , it is speculated, is how Obama got a Natural Born Status in Hawaii, which does NOT equate to the Constitutional Natural Born Status, as Hawaii routinely provided Certifications of live births for Babies born out of the country.

See: http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697 For extremely detailed information


177 posted on 07/29/2009 4:33:53 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Danae
Yes, I've gotten this much now. Here is where we are: I am resolved on almost all issues but two. One is, the Honolulu Advertiser (yes, with a wrong address) that announces Barack Obama's birth in . . . 1961. That's from microfilm, and that is pretty hard to fake.

The other is the statement from Fukino or whatever the lady's name is from the Hawaiian government who stated unequivocally that BO is a "natural born citizen." Now, she may be lying, but to have someone from that high up in a state government say something that definitive is certainly an issue.

181 posted on 07/29/2009 4:49:05 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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