The other is the statement from Fukino or whatever the lady's name is from the Hawaiian government who stated unequivocally that BO is a "natural born citizen." Now, she may be lying, but to have someone from that high up in a state government say something that definitive is certainly an issue.
She said Natural Born according to the laws of Hawai’i did she not?
That is not the same as Natural Born Constitutionally.
She didn't say that at all. She said this:
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen."
She's not verifying it. The vital recordS (plural) on file verify this. What vital recordS (plural)?
If there's a valid long form birth certificate there's only ONE vital record.
BUT if he filed for a late birth certificate then the vital recordS (plural) would be the documents he used to establish the proof that he was born in Hawaii.
If he wasn't really born there but obtained a late filed birth record based on false evidence, then the vital record(S) do verify it. BUT that doesn't mean it's true.
Seems there was a “revising” frenzy in Hawaii the day before election day ALL having to do with birth certificates. Coincidentally:
Mon., Nov . 3, 2008
HONOLULU - Barack Obama’s grandmother, whose personality and bearing shaped much of the life of the Democratic presidential contender, has died, Obama announced Monday, one day before the election.
Interestingly enough, there is ALSO one dealing with new rules governing what happens to a persons documents AFTER death. #2 #3 #4 particularly interesting.
1. HRS_0338-0020_0005.htm
Context: persons. (a) The department of health shall establish a Hawaii certificate of birth for a person born in a foreign country and for whom child by adoptive parent or parents; (G) True or probable country of birth. The true or probable country of birth shall ...be known as the place of birth, and the date of birth shall be determined by birth; and (4) A request that a
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Electronic File Date: 11/3/2008 8:41:02 AM
2. HRS_0578-0014.htm
Context: The department shall cause to be made a new record of the birth in the name of the individual, as fixed or changed who consents to be named on the certificate. (b) If a new birth certificate is issued, the original birth certificate shall be sealed and a record of birth exists, the certified copy of the decree or the abstract ...thereof, shall be transmitted by the department of health to the birth registration authorities of the place of the individual’s birth with a
Filesize: 6899
Electronic File Date: 11/3/2008 8:45:54 AM
3. HRS_0626-0001-0803.htm
Context: portraits, engravings on urns, crypts, or tombstones, or the like. (14) Records of documents affecting an interest in property. The record of a document of a public office and an applicable statute authorizes the recording of documents of that kind in that office. (15)...Statements in documents affecting an interest in property. A statement contained in a or among the person’s associates, or in the community, concerning a person’s birth, adoption, marriage, divorce, death, legitimacy,
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Electronic File Date: 11/3/2008 8:46:10 AM
4. HRS_0710-1017_0005.htm
Context: document issued by a governmental agency, including a driver’s license, identification card, birth certificate, passport, or social security card. created the criminal offense of the sale or manufacture of deceptive identification documents. Testimony regarding the measure indicated that identification documents, such ...as driver licenses, identification cards, and birth certificates, have become prey falsified official identification documents. False identification documents could be used in place of authentic
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[§710-1017.5] Sale or manufacture of deceptive identification document; penalties. (1) A person commits the offense of sale or manufacture of deceptive identification document if the person intentionally or knowingly manufactures, sells, offers for sale, furnishes, offers to be furnished, transports, offers to be transported, or imports or offers to be imported into this State a deceptive identification document.
(2) As used in this section, “deceptive identification document” means any identification document not issued by a governmental agency that purports to be, or that might deceive a reasonable person into believing that it is, an identification document issued by a governmental agency, including a driver’s license, identification card, birth certificate, passport, or social security card.
(3) The sale or manufacture of a deceptive identification document is a class C felony.
(4) Any property used or intended for use in the commission of, attempt to commit, or conspiracy to commit an offense under this section, or that facilitated or assisted such activity, shall be subject to forfeiture under chapter 712A. [L 2001, c 230, §1]
Cross References
Protection of personal information, civil remedies, see chapters 487J, 487N, and 487R.
COMMENTARY ON §710-1017.5
Act 230, Session Laws 2001, created the criminal offense of the sale or manufacture of deceptive identification documents. Testimony regarding the measure indicated that identification documents, such as driver licenses, identification cards, and birth certificates, have become prey to unscrupulous commercial enterprises that have created a market for selling falsified official identification documents. False identification documents could be used in place of authentic documents for everyday purposes, such as proof of identification, age, or citizenship. Senate Standing Committee Report No. 1131.
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