” You are accepting hearsay, claims, and conjecture as evidence, and this is what makes your posts draw so much fire.”
LOL, get serious. The BIRTHERS are accepting hearsay, claims, and conjecture as evidence, and then rejecting more solid, on the record evidence. A great example is the newspaper announcement. This is ‘waved away’ because of a 2nd hand report of a neighbor saying something the WND reporter about not remembering seeing them around 47 years ago.
Not to mention the phony report of ‘grandma says he was born in Kenya’ (nope, that was just bad reporting).
And you accuse *ME* of accepting ‘hearsay’!?!? Dont you see the double-standard? Physician heal thyself!
“We who are asking Mr. Obama to come clean with his past are making a very simple and legitimate request”
... so long as you admit that Obama was probably born in Honolulu just as the Aug 13th 1961 newspaper announcement seems to show, you are on solid ground. I’m with you.
BUT once you launch into these innocent-until-proven-guilty theories (”hes hiding it because his real Dad is Frank Davi Marshall and other BS) and suggest he HAS to have something horrible to hide (nope, maybe BHO just wants to hide it to P888 you off) and make false claims like “The COLB is a proven forgery” (no its not, nothing of the sort has been proven), you are outside that solid ground.
You are throwing junk out there to muddy the waters. Excuse me if I call BS on BS.
I too would like a lot more real information about Obama and not the Obamedia BS protection zone. But wanting more information doesnt mean I will automatically assume the worst and most bizarre assumptions about how he was born. He was almost certainly born in Honolulu.
That's flat-out untrue (and I did notice how you capitalized the word "birthers").
You, with your fingers in your ears, don't seem to notice that the Birthers are doing the exact OPPOSITE of what you accuse us of. We are NOT accepting hearsay, claims, and conjecture as evidence, as those on the left are doing.
The ENTIRE thrust of the so-called birther movement is to compel Obama and his minions to release factual evidence and verifiable documentation about this enigma's provenance and life history.
To date, all that Obama has released to the public are jpeg images of questionable origin and authenticity. He has not once submitted the most standard of personal documents to any court, qualified experts, or the US Congress for verification of his claims to eligibility.
Worse still, he has so far been tone-deaf to calls from the American people to do this very simple thing. He has steadfastly ignored every request to simply end the speculation by providing documents that every American citizen must provide in the due course of conducting their normal lives.
In fact, his attorneys have beat back every single court challenge to compel him to do this. If he is what he and his supporters say he is, then this behavior is inexplicable at best, and proves that he is indeed a fraud, at worst.
Until we see some hard evidence of Obama's eligibility to hold office, we'll have to work with circumstantial evidence, logic, and reason.
I tell you, it's real hubris to call people unreasonable and "nutty" for simply demanding solid evidence and truth on an issue of such basic importance. Especially when that evidence can be tendered with no effort whatsoever.
No - all of the effort being expended by the Obama camp and his supporters is to hide and withhold this vital data.
This is the glaring light in your face that you've closed your eyes to.