Obama’s Science Czar Said a Born Baby ‘Will Ultimately Develop Into a Human Being’

CNS News ^ | Tuesday, July 28, 2009 | Terence P. Jeffrey

[bamahead]

President Obama’s top science adviser said in a book he co-authored in 1973 that a newborn child “will ultimately develop into a human being” if he or she is properly fed and socialized.

Ahh so a born child is not even considered a human being now...unless "properly fed and socialized". Who determines proper? And if it's deemed improper, does the child still have rights??!?



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[newguy357]

There's the quote from the story. You agree that the author's thesis requires that both pre and post natal development and socialization are needed to attain "human" status?

No. I think it is a poorly constructed and therefore ambiguous sentence that may be interpreted with or without the post natal development clause. We already have sufficient evidence, good evidence, that these people are evil. Giving them the benefit of the doubt in these cases, for the purpose of the moral debate, strengthens not weakens our case. That is my point.

[metmom]

You were the one who brought up the term *fetus*.

Wagglebee, this thread has turned into troll bait.

[shibumi]

"And if it's deemed improper, does the child still have rights??!?"

Only if the village (or its idiot-in-chief) says so.

[wagglebee]

This certainly looks human to me:

If a fetus is a human being, then it is axiomatic that a LIVE BABY is also a human being.

[Salvation]

I’m not a scientist, but the Lord tells us in the Bible that “I knew you from the moment you were [conceived] in your mother’s womb.”

[metmom]

Don’t belittle yourself.

Seems that only a *scientist* could rationalize this kind of nonsense, which is what you get when you take God out of the picture.

The rest of us normal humans understand that the humanity of the baby is patently obvious.

[humblegunner]

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Do you always ping your little posse?

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Try to speak for yourself without the invective.

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[gargoyle]

...Newborn, in the model of the progressive style. Inferior beings will be eliminated for the good of the whole. OKAY, Thanks for the warning. I understand who else is my enemy...

[gogogodzilla]

He’s actually saying that a baby is NOT a human until it’s been fed and grows up! By that theory, there are MANY large non-humans around - that haven’t grown up!

He's right! Just look at Obama!

Think of how much better off we'd be if he'd have been aborted as soon as became involved in politics.

:-P

[Coleus]

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[Semper Mark]

Baby will ultimately develop into a human being “if he or she is properly fed and socialized.”

What, someone not been feeding this animal?

Human life begins at the moment of conception!
The are no if’s about it.

[wendy1946]

President Obama’s top science adviser said in a book he co-authored in 1973 that a newborn child “will ultimately develop into a human being” if he or she is properly fed and socialized.

He left one caveat out, i.e. that is if NATO armed forces don't drop a 500-lb bomb on the kid's head to take a credible rape allegation off the front pages of American newspapers...

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[newguy357]

A fetus is a human being. I have volunteered with pro-life organizations. A born child is a human being. Where have I said otherwise? Please learn to read before posting on the internet. Thank you for your consideration.

[wagglebee]

A fetus is a human being. I have volunteered with pro-life organizations. A born child is a human being. Where have I said otherwise? Please learn to read before posting on the internet. Thank you for your consideration.

I have not suggested you said otherwise.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Reminds me of a description of pro-abort Fr. Robert Drinan SJ at Georgetown, who was said to doubt the personhood not just of the unborn, but even of undergraduates.

[Mrs. Don-o]

When I used to do public speaking, I would often approach the audience thus:

There are two kinds of human beings: developing, and dead. How many here are developing? (All hands would rise, many waving enthusiastically --- no matter what the audience!) Anybody here dead? (Usually no hands, except the inevitable jokemeister.)"

So the fact that a zygote, embryo, fetus, neonate, infant, toddler, etc. is "developing" is true, but that is not what makes them different from the rest of us; that's what they have in common with the rest of us.

Taking this view, we could say that humanity extends, not just from the cradle to the grave, but from the womb to the tomb.

Some of us recognize the span "from erection to Resurrection."

[Mrs. Don-o]

Your view is not grammatically correct. Although the subject is "fetus," the subject is further modified and defined by adjective clauses. The purpose of such clauses would be to specify who, what, when, where, why, how, of what kind, or in what manner. In other words, they limit or extend the meaning of subject-predicate stem.

The meaning here is clearly that this individual (the fetus) must go through a gamut of change (via nutrition and socializing experiences) to subsequently (after these changes) become a human being.

If you will re-read the passage I am sure you'll grasp the grammatical point.

See also mine at .

[Mrs. Don-o]

"OB already supports letting a baby die unattended after it survives an abortion. Next step, you can kill your baby up until it can buy food and feed itself."

My 17-year-old ain't quite there yet...though he can (just) manage to prepare his own boxed mac'n'cheese.