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Public Health Physicians Expose Double Standard in the FDA's Study of Electronic Cigarettes
PR Log ^ | July 27, 2009 | Thomas R. Kiklas

Posted on 07/28/2009 7:05:02 AM PDT by libertarian27

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1 posted on 07/28/2009 7:05:04 AM PDT by libertarian27
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2 posted on 07/28/2009 7:05:55 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Life, Liberty and the Department of Happiness)
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3 posted on 07/28/2009 7:56:29 AM PDT by thoolou ("I may have invented it, but Bill made it famous." - David Bradley, inventor of Ctrl-Alt-Del)
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4 posted on 07/28/2009 4:44:27 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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5 posted on 07/28/2009 5:02:35 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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6 posted on 07/28/2009 5:03:40 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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The FDA recently went public with misleading information about the safety of electronic cigarettes and the marketing of the devices, not only using its clout but recruiting other prominent organizations to demonize a product that has great public health benefit potential.

And more importantly, nanny state in-your-face potential, meaning that it has great potential to engage in public conduct that will cause liberal government-sucking busybodies' heads to explode, AND THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT! The FDA should approve the product on that basis alone. Think of all the mental health benefits to beleaguered freedom lovers as they get to figuratively flip liberals the bird.

7 posted on 07/28/2009 7:00:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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This is a freaking nightmare that won’t end until the citizens all stand up and take our country back from Statists. That includes libs and leftist Dem voters too.

They didn’t sign up for this. They rail against Big business....well, here you have Big Tobacco (losing customers and billions for tobacco to e-cigs), Big Pharma (losing customers and billions in lame ineffective NRT to e-cigs) and Big Gubmint (losing billions in tax money to freedom).

That’s too much to compete against. Science and logic has no place here. E-cigs must be killed in the womb before it grows up to be a strapping young lad that crushes them.


8 posted on 07/28/2009 7:47:12 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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9 posted on 07/28/2009 7:50:59 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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Try this one:

http://www.prlog.org/10293275-public-health-physicians-expose-double-standard-in-the-fdas-study-of-electronic-cigarettes.html


10 posted on 07/28/2009 7:52:48 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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The link in the original post worked for me.


11 posted on 07/28/2009 7:57:43 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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12 posted on 07/28/2009 8:00:13 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: libertarian27
I got my first e-cig at the beginning of this month (thanks to the advice of some Freepers) and without even trying, I've gone from 1 1/2 - 2 packs of regular cigs a day down to about only 3 regular cigarettes a day.

First time in my life I've thought I could actually successfully quit smoking.

13 posted on 07/28/2009 8:06:49 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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14 posted on 07/28/2009 8:47:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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15 posted on 07/28/2009 10:05:10 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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The FDA doesn't want you to quit smoking. They want you to bankrupt yourself paying taxes on cigarettes and then die. That is what happens when social engineering socialists control the government.
16 posted on 07/29/2009 6:54:28 AM PDT by monday
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Same here. How long did you smoke?
This EPA thing is so bogus. Actions are being taken bigtime by many.
They are trying to scare vapers into going back to smoking regualr cigs which they KNOW are lethal. This is criminal.


17 posted on 07/29/2009 9:20:44 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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Same here. How long did you smoke?

Almost 40 years.

Those three regular cigarettes a day are a tribute to my husband who is still smoking regular cigs. I go outside with him to smoke and that's when I have a regular cig.

It's funny that it ticks husband off that I can vape pretty much everywhere -- in places where he wants a cig and can't have one, he tries to convince me NOT to vape "just because". It's kind of funny -- he's really jealous of my vaping and he thinks that I don't know it.

18 posted on 07/29/2009 10:12:30 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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"They are trying to scare vapers into going back to smoking regualr cigs which they KNOW are lethal. This is criminal."

I think one of the things about vaping that is so cool is that no big pharma invented and in-your-face marketed this product to us smokers. Smokers, instead on their own, found this great alternative that is proving a huge success in getting people to quit smoking cigarettes relatively painlessly.

How dare we? How dare we own our own success? How dare we think for ourselves and take our own risks? Who do we think we are? "Free citizens"? /Snort!

19 posted on 07/29/2009 10:21:52 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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I’ve personally got five people to quit and switch to ecigs. They’re just loving all the flavors. I’m making my own flavorings now.


20 posted on 07/29/2009 11:11:02 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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