Posted on 07/27/2009 11:12:35 AM PDT by Danae
I hadn't heard THAT before. Why are there always so many weird facets to everything?
“In 1961, the hospitals reported birth to Vital Statistics and they sent a list to the newspapers weekly. The newspapers have been spoken with in Hawaii about this.”
So if Obama were born in a Hawaii hospital then the hospital would have sent the notification of birth to the Department(?)of Vital Statistics and then the Department of Vital Statistics would have made the list available to the newspapers. But...
What happens for a home birth? I suspect there was and is a mechanism which permits the parents to register a home birth at the Department of Vital Statistics. If true, then it would be possible for an infant born outside of Hawaii to be registered as a Hawaii birth. There might be a number of reasons for parents to lie about the location of the birth—one of which is that US citizenship can be useful.
So false information provided by the parent(s) to the Department of Vital Statistics winds up in the local newpapers but still remains false information though it comes from the Department of Vital Statistics.
In my opinion, perception is more important than reality to the general public. So his exact DNA components really didn't matter to blacks or whites; and won't in the future, either. He looks black, therefore people wanting to vote skin color or emotion will do so regardless. They imagine he experiences life as a black person, and they have justification to do so. He married a black woman and has consciously adopted himself into the black community. That's all most people want to think about.
Remember, this is a nation that had the one-drop rule until 1967. This is a nation where the main teacher's union thinks that transsexuals actually are the other sex after they are drugged and mutilated, even though their DNA remains the gender they were at birth. Perception is everything.
The most important issues are not why he is suppressing his information, but what is the truth of the information, and were any crimes committed in the suppression of the information?
I have no idea. To me it just says that Ann was up to stuff that Mom would not approve of, based on what Obama said of Grandma in his book about being afraid of black men. To me, that’s a pretty ignorant point of view, but that’s just my opinion and really worthless on the whole. In and of its self, I couldn’t care less what she did. But certainly it shows something of what she (Ann) and perhaps her mom, thought of as acceptable I guess.
“The most important issues are not why he is suppressing his information, but what is the truth of the information, and were any crimes committed in the suppression of the information?”
That is exactly my point. I am sure that I am not 100% correct. Am I close, well if the boot fits... Seriously though, this theory fits a lot of the information that is available. It also fits for a couple of subtly different scenarios, including yours.
In the end the question is: “What did the President know and when did he know it?” Has a crime been committed in the attempt to misrepresent a Candidate for POTUS? It isn’t even about whether or not it helped him get elected at this point. The question is, Did Obama get and use a fraudulent document? Is this a Crime? I think it is, and I think there is ample evidence that a crime was committed. The ONLY answer to the question lay in the Long Form Birth Certificate that Obama REFUSES to let anyone see.
The details of how and why are sort of irrelevant compared to that single question. Does the COLB Obama has MATCH the information on his Long form? I just came up with a plausible story as to why. Obama isn’t stupid, he LEARNED from that 2000 race he lost due to the “Black Enough” question. So he answers that question with something NO black man or woman would be able to question: “African”.
My kingdom for a single subpoena for the Long form Birth Certificate!
You aren’t the first person I’ve read who has put forward this theory, albeit, you have a lot more detail as to the hows and whys. 110 is interesting, your COLB appears to be the same printing run as Obama’s in that it has the same features in the border as his that some claim are proof of a forgery (something you really can’t prove in an image of an image, you need to examine the real thing.)
Interesting, and certainly plausible. I’ve thought for some time that whatever 0 is hiding, it may have nothing to do with place of birth but rather with something else he doesn’t want known.
However, I don’t see how “African” would be lend any more street cred than “Negro” or “Black.”
Unless the long form has Obama listed as “Caucasian” on the account of his mother. That would destroy his identity politic shtick.
bttt
If a person didn’t know your parentage and you had real dark skin and real curly hair you could pass for Negro or Black. But for some mulatto people, they have other characteristics... freckles, green eyes, straighter hair, lighter skin. Lots of different things. In Obama’s case, his parentage was known, it was known he had a white mom. Which in and of itself doesn’t mean a darned thing to me. I really don’t care about that stuff. But we aren’t talking about me. I would be happy to see a black man or woman in the office of POTUS. I am not interested in a marxist socialist who lied to get into office and is out to destroy America!
That being said, and having digressed from my point, it DOES matter to the Black Community. That much is absolutely certain. Not from my point of view, but from THEIRS. There was stuff published about it, “Barak the Magic Negro” and various other hit pieces which called into question whether or not he was “black enough” to call himself black, and that came up long before he ran for POTUS, that really came about in 2000 when he ran for congress and lost to a man who was a lot “blacker” than he was. Yea I know, its sort of crazy, and its is racist, in that “racial purity” could be a deciding factor, but there it is. Not from my lips, or keyboard, but from the people in Illinois who were doing the questioning.
You can check the “same printing” thing by the number at the bottom of the form I think. Not sure on that, I am no Document expert. Not gonna pretend to be either...lol
“Unless the long form has Obama listed as Caucasian on the account of his mother. That would destroy his identity politic shtick.”
AND
Prove that a forgery had been made and used by Obama, which may be a crime. Now thats talking some serious consequences for him and for the State of Hawaii.
Oh and make him look like an A$$ in the Black Community, and show how he has been using them. It totally crushed his credibility.
"Queering Elementary Education" - Bill Ayers
Was a Communist Obamas Sex Teacher?
''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.''...He also writes about the Weathermen's sexual experimentation as they tried to ''smash monogamy.'' New York Times, September 11, 2001
In the interests of creating new men and new women, [former Weatherman Cathy Wilkerson] writes, the leadership pushed an antimonogamy policy, giving joyless parties where virtual strangers had public sex. ...sacrificing our own humanity. New York Times, Nov. 14, 2007
Heres a big animated GIF of the front side vs. the reverse side. The reverse is in green and the front is in red.
Notice along the uuper part orf the circle, the big folds on the back start to appear as flat on the front. You can see the letters along that upper quadrant get flat when going from back to front. Letters that were there on the on the bag get to disappear on thr front:
Ill give it a day or too, and if she hasnt responded, then break the news. [I gave you 10 days]
In case she tries to use this against me, well you already know thats is a forgery and a ruse.
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There are more things I could have posted, like folds and tears that were drawn in.
You should know better than to run a forgery by me
Danae’s interesting theory and info here.... ;)
WTF
You are fullo $hit! What on earth are you talking about??
10 days?
If I missed something then I am sorry. I get something well over 100 emails a day.
But right here right now, YOU OWE ME A FULL APOLOGY AND IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE PING LIST.
The inforrmation I sent you is 100% legit. So is the information I got from the Department of Vital Statistics in Honolulu who confirm the order of my COLB in Feb of 2000 what my MOM hand wrote into to get for me.
You want to call me a liar, PROVE it. What you just did was to prove YOURSELF as INCOMPETENT. Why? Beacuse the information I posted is LEGIT. I KNOW that it is, I am holding it in my hands.
There is NOTHING forged in that document that I sent you. There is nothing at all that is in ANY way other than what was sent to me by the STATE of Hawaii.
So that being said, YOU are the one who just kicked himself in his own ass.
I am awaiting your apology.
Did I happen to mention that “Danae” is a character in the “Non-Sequitur” comic strip?...
WOW VERY VERY interesting.Send this to RUSH , I’m serious.
Nice try, but no cigar. No soup for you. ... And BTW, you are not honest enough to be Jim Thompson.
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