Posted on 07/26/2009 8:42:16 PM PDT by LuxMaker
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – Soldiers from an Army unit that had 10 infantrymen accused of murder, attempted murder or manslaughter after returning to civilian life described a breakdown in discipline during their Iraq deployment in which troops murdered civilians, a newspaper reported Sunday. Some Fort Carson, Colo.-based soldiers have had trouble adjusting to life back in the United States, saying they refused to seek help, or were belittled or punished for seeking help. Others say they were ignored by their commanders, or coped through drug and alcohol abuse before they allegedly committed crimes, The Gazette of Colorado Springs said.
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This sure sounds like a replay of what the Dims said about the returning VN vets. “Drug addicts, killers, rape artists, not fit for a civilized society..” and all of it was, and this article also, probably is bravo sierra. America’s fighting men and women are among the bravest on this planet. They are very well trained, psychos are mostly weeded out, and those that fight the fight are most all great and patriotic warriors - not like this putrid article alleges.
What a load of $#!t.
So, once again the leftwing media focus’s on a half dozen malcontents who may or may not have done what they claim, and ignored hundreds of thousands of Honorable Troops who served and performed heroically.
It should also be noted that towards the bottom of the article appears, “The Army’s criminal investigation division interviewed unit soldiers and said it couldn’t substantiate the allegations.”
WinterSoldier all over again.
Anyone seen Kerry lately?
If for no other reason than to clear the names of their fellow soldiers.
Yep. Sure does look like the same kind of pattern.
You called it, DR. This is a load of BS by the enemedia focusing on a few ciminals.
Interesting. My son's unit (2nd BCT/89th Cav Regiment 10th Mountain Division) was also deployed to the Triangle (2006-2007) for 18 months and had 55 KIA's with nearly the same number of wounded as this unit. I wonder if there are other units with similar numbers of KIA's and wounded soldiers? It would also be interesting to know the rates of problems faced by soldiers from other units after returning stateside.
War never has been a particularly pretty thing. I’ve never been in one, only on the receiving end.
Members of IVAW?
I do not believe a word of this , it’s pure BS.
All across society men get into trouble with the law
and it’s easy for a disgruntled ex-soldier to make up such a load of crap just to get back , in a warped way, at whom he feels are responsible for all his mental problems .
The bets thing the Military could do is fully allow and encourage overt Christianity and Christian services within the military .
Let their Chaplains come out and talk directly about moral conduct and staying away from the temptations of Satan;
like drugs and alcohol .
What we need is a Army of fired up righteous warriors
who KNOW God is on their side ...
That’s what the other side tries to do , but their problem is ,whom they think of as their God is actually the Devil .
I think this is known as preparing a defense. You can bet some lawyers have advised the accused to make sure everyone knows how the war damaged their fragile psyches. And that they are not to blame for any of the criminal behavior of which they are accused.
Unfortunately some people are attracted to military service for the wrong reasons and it probably is not that easy to weed them out. They get back to civillian life and conveniently forget the difference between killing someone in a battle and murdering someone in cold blood.
The army did not create these monsters. It only provided them with acceptable targets.
Leave it to the AP to front more “soldiers are rapists, killers, drug users’ crap unto the masses.
For shame. And the AP want US to pay for this propaganda.
Gee, that doesn’t sound like a bunch of commie propaganda or anything, does it? Remember all those movies in the 70’s about psycho Vietnam vets?
That's just crap. I work on an Army post. There are signs everywhere, telling soldiers to seek help if they need it. There are other signs telling them to make sure any of their buddies who need help get it. One of the signs goes something like "Don't leave a Buddy Behind".
Unfortunately yes, but we still haven't seen his service record. Whereas that of retired AF. Lt. Col. Jerome J. Ersland , with service in both the Army and the AF, is plastered all over the Internet, since he's been accused of murder in conjunction with a robbery of the pharmacy where he worked, as the pharmacist. Shot a 16 y/o kid with a Taurus Judge, chased the other one out the door, came back in, switched to a smaller pistol, then popped the 16 y/o who was down on the floor, a few more times. Unfortunately after the kid dropped the first time, neither of the in store cameras could see his location. So it looks as if the Pharmacist just walked over and shot him. However there is something in the reverse angle shot that looks like the pharmacist was startled, as he walked toward the kid, or possibly toward the door to the back room, where two women who worked at the pharmacy had fled.
His service record, with all the medals awarded, military and civilian schools attended, and each duty station he served at has been posted Here in PDF format.
The reason the records even came up is that he told the police he'd served in Desert Storm, whereas the record shows he was in Oklahoma at the time. But since he's not been convicted yet, those records should be as private as John F'n Kerry's or Bamaies Birth Certificate. Some of the information contained in the records linked above is releasable without permission of the individual or their survivors, but some is not as well. The stuff was faxed from the St. Louis vicinity., which is where military records are kept, bu the exchange of the number doesn't match that of the records center.
You got it. Veterans For America is behind this article; they were formed from the merger of Vietnam Veterans For America, and Veterans for Common Sense (VCS), an anti-war group founded in 2002.
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