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To: TommyDale

I have come to my own opinions after extensive search on this.

I believe he is a US citizen no matter where he was born because he was born out of wedlock. Even if Hawaii recognized a customary marriage..how would you go about proving there was one..the parties are dead. That would be a nightmare.

Natural Born Citizen will have to be determined by Scotus and boy would it be a wild time there. I don’t think any of them want to deal with it right now.

But the cover up of the real facts is what would kill the rest of his career. Or at least it should. It probably depends on how bad he kills America. Bill Clinton got away with a lot.

I have a strong opinion that the Spooks were involved with that family. Too much has been able to disappear.

My only ray of hope at this point is that there are some Democrats that will realize they will be out in 2010 if they continue down this awful road to Socialism.

He will never have a real claim to the Presidency to me unless I can see that original long form certificate and see the hospital, date, and doctor.

It probably says midwife or some such thing.


78 posted on 07/26/2009 5:23:25 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

You said — It probably says midwife or some such thing.

My dad was born in a shack, at least from what I could see of what was left of it, it was. No hospital and out in the country. He showed me the place, with only bare foundations left, out in the middle of nowhere. I guess that’s the kind of thing where you don’t have a birth certificate and you have to go somewhere and give the officials the information about it (since it was not in a hospital). And there was no midwife, from what I understand (for him, probably were some family members, but I’m only guessing).

And I’ve got two grandchildren not born in a hospital (at home), so I’ve never thought about their birth certificates, but I guess the same thing applies there, too (and with them, we’re talking only a mere few years ago...).

I suspect that there are quite a few, still born without birth certificates, these days. You’ve got to go somewhere and inform officials about a birth...

Not saying that this happened with Obama, because in his case, it was supposed to be in a hospital. I’m just saying that now that I think about it, I’ve got three people directly related to me that have not had birth certificates “officially” until going to government officials and supplying information to them and getting one that way.


95 posted on 07/26/2009 6:12:12 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: RummyChick

It’s probably too late for this case, but the law needs to be clarified to say that “a person is deemed to NOT be a natural born citizen unless proven that he/she is” one.


100 posted on 07/26/2009 6:23:03 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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