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To: LucyT

BP2 is flat out wrong and this continued posting of Minor creating a law when it doesn’t is bad for the “birthers” .It makes them look like they are either ignorant when it comes to reading the law or intentionally misleading the public - either way...not a good thing when you are trying to persuade someone about the seriousness of the issue.

The court in Minor did NOT resolve that issue. It said there were doubts but that is all it said. It didn’t even say that THIS COURT has doubts.

It didn’t say there was a requirement to have two parents that were citizens. It didn’t address it because it wasn’t relevent to their case at hand that was about a woman not getting to vote...and they were determining if a woman was a citizen, etc.

It said essentially....if there were two parents that were citizens....then....

If..then....

NOT

ONLY IF

Understand the difference?

“For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient, for everything we have now to consider, that all children, born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction, are themselves citizens.”


125 posted on 07/27/2009 5:25:36 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

MR. CHIEF JUSTICE FULLER Dissent in Wong:

“I do not insist that, although what was said was deemed essential to the argument and a necessary part of it, the point was definitively disposed of in the Slaughterhouse Cases, particularly as Chief Justice Waite in Minor v. Happersett, 21 Wall. 162, 167, remarked that there were doubts which, for the purposes of the case then in hand, it was not necessary to solve.”

By the way, this same Justice felt that it was within the powers to exclude persons of a certain race from being citizens EVEN IF BORN IN THE US.

“In other words, the Fourteenth Amendment does not exclude from citizenship by birth children born in the United States of parents permanently located therein, and who might themselves become citizens; nor, on the other hand, does it arbitrarily make citizens of children born in the United States of parents who, according to the will of their native government and of this Government, are and must remain aliens. Tested by this rule, Wong in Ark never became and is not a citizen of the United States, and the order of the District Court should be reversed. “


127 posted on 07/27/2009 5:44:24 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick; BP2
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For BP2.

BP2, post #125 was meant for you; it reads in part:

BP2 is flat out wrong and this continued posting of Minor creating a law when it doesn’t is bad for the “birthers” .It makes them look like they are either ignorant when it comes to reading the law or intentionally misleading the public - either way...not a good thing when you are trying to persuade someone about the seriousness of the issue.

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131 posted on 07/27/2009 10:21:13 AM PDT by LucyT
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